****ing FA shortsighted pricks

[StanDMan]

Exactly.
Phil Neville reckons England will never improve if PL clubs keep importing "average" foreign players.
So the option is to nerf the PL by making clubs sign **** English players?
How is that going to make the English players not ****? They will still be ****, just playing at a different club.

He would have never had the chance but for his half decent elder sibling.

 

[george the blue]

I'll be honest, Id go further than the FA have and require that 5/11 players must be club trained or english.

there are so many average players from abroad in our leagues, and for every ronaldo that comes-there are 5 potential harry kanes who need the right chance, at the right time to kick on. The only reason english players dont do so well is that they generally don't get the chances at the top level.

what the FA are doing will lower the price of english players, give them more exposure, and improve the national team.

if that means the CL is out our grasps for 3 years or so, thats great. id rather be an also ran with 11 ryan bertrands than what we have now tbh.

 

[Chelsea Pensioner]

I think the grass roots argument is valid, and there is obviously an issue in that our kids are playing on bobbly waterlogged pitches most of the season and the big kids get picked first because of their physical attributes etc. A better climate would almost certainly produce better footballers (though it doesn't seem to impact Germany).

However, top class players don't come into first teams as top class players. They develop on the pitch playing with and against top class opposition in top class competitions generally. As a really basic example, I don't think Lampard would have become the player he did had we not signed him and then surrounded him with other gifted players. He'd have not developed to the same level playing in a mid table side.

So that push youngsters get by being brought into the top sides, makes or breaks them and the more that are pushed, the more will succeed. Basis percentages really. That's why IMO the Germans have a much better pool of players to choose from, because they have more Germans playing for the top clubs and being developed all the time. You stick a promising youngster in a championship side, he's never going to develop sufficiently good enough to be an international footballer 99 out of a 100 times.

Another example, is back in the 70's and 80's when most leagues were filled mostly with non foreigners, Scotland had some of the best players in the world at Liverpool in Dalglish, Souness etc. Now they can't produce any top line players because they are in such a week league and England doesn't take their players to the same extent as we did 30-40 years ago, because we have the whole of the world to take players from.

That's very valid critique, gifted inexperienced players improve when they play with top class players. However to start the process of improving overall standards on a false premise that banning "ordinary" foreign players, who no Club would knowingly sign anyway, and replacing them with "ordinary" British players, should be the starting point.Some kind of compulsory number of home grown youngsters playing in every team during the season is surely a better start.

 

[Diego]

That's very valid critique, gifted inexperienced players improve when they play with top class players. However to start the process of improving overall standards on a false premise that banning "ordinary" foreign players, who no Club would knowingly sign anyway, and replacing them with "ordinary" British players, should be the starting point.Some kind of compulsory number of home grown youngsters playing in every team during the season is surely a better start.

Instead of all this "home grown imports" ****, perhaps we should ban imports under the age of 21. That way you would only be buying a talent to go straight into your squad and the "home grown" players would have a chance to develop and prove themselves.

 

[DferPolarBear]

I kinda get the feeling it is trying too hard. It must be the Polar Bear (we ignore International boarders) in me, but I don't feel the need to farm children to create the next master race. I'm more behind aspirations than an out dated sense of National pride. Competition on a global scale will ultimately always be a numbers game. Invest in Chinese grass roots football (or anything) and they'll win everything, but it wouldn't mean then that the Chinese were intrinsically the World's greatest players. We already see this at work in the Olympics. The only reason the England and Wales cricket team still have a chance at the World cup is because other countries tend not to give a monkey's about cricket because if the Chinese took it up......

 

[Bristol Blue]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/premier-league/

Trying to restrict the amount of foreigners in squads to "help England"

**** England.

They realise that under their new regulations on tightening EU players, then players like Suarez would never have been able to play in the Premier League.
The Premier league will no longer be able to create great players from non EU countries, only buy them at ridiculous market value once they have peaked.
Also limiting Non "Home grown" players even further too?!

You would think that Cristiano Ronaldo never cut his teeth in this league they way they are acting.

And the best part......England will still be ****. So this is all for nowt.
The problems with their international squad are at grass roots training level and are somewhat cultural too.
Its nothing to do with big bad foreigners taking their jobs, ffs!! If someone is good enough, regardless of nationality, then they will play.
Having foreigners has raised the bar, that's all, and exposed our grass roots training for the shower of **** it really is.

Indeed, in England, grass roots training on often expensive pitches in expensive football gear and football boots counts for nothing. The England Cup winners of 1966 would have learned their skills kicking a ball against a wall in a street and with jumpers for goal posts when in a park. The Brazillians in the current Chelsea side probably learned their skills in a back street or barefoot and on a beach as children.