I think this is a good and important point. There are a lot of posters on here who are either anti Allam, or anti name change, but are not members of CTWD. It may well be that CTWD are being unfairly associated with some of the abuse when, in fact, they are running a reasonable and responsible campaign. It would not be unreasonable for people to say whether they are CTWD members or not, what ever their attitude to Allam or Name Change. For the record I am not a member of CTWD. I am pro Allam (in general) I am against the Name Change but would accept it if it meant the survival and success of the club. Tin Helmet on.
In my view (and I've got a tin hat on ready) part of the problem is that people (understandably at times) cannot seperate the aims and statements from the group from the comments on forums of individuals within that group. For myself, I know the original group was a single issue group solely for the name change, but that's gone. I'm not quite sure what CTWD currently represents.
It appears the argument for the change is the old "Opal Fruits" "Starburst" comparison. Excellent work. I appreciate the time & effort you've all put in over the last 12 months to come up with such a compelling, effective & trenchant piece of work. It really is formidable. I'm sure it will go a long way in convincing many doubters that we are in safe hands moving forward. Well done to you all, thank you.
Why is it CTWD fault some fans takes take there point OTT? These people may or not be members. You look at any type of protest. Whether it be political, social or something to do with sport some people will always take it a step to far. BCC is a anti named change as OLM, yet isn't a member of CTWD. I wasn't a member until last night, but has always been anti name change. Not everyone who takes part in 19:04 chant will be a member CTWD. You don't have to part of a group to stand up to for your beliefs. I just don't get why some people blame CTWD for actions of everyone who is anti name change. There statements and soundbites on social media have always been respectful and have always encourage support the football and Allams.
People booing seem to have forgot the FA was the ones who said NO to the name change . In my opinion they would have said NO if CTWD had not existed Anyone supporting the name change should be getting on at the FA not CTWD . only the fa have the power to change our name . It's not going to happen . Mr Allam has lost You either accept it Mr Allam or leave . Bring on the new owners .
Why does it matter if the aggressors are members of CTWD or not? Anyone can buy a membership, the committee can't stop them. The committee can't attribute a member to every forum poster. The members don't speak on behalf of the committee. Whether one forum poster who calls a pro Allam parasite a **** is a CTWD member or not is entirely irrelevant, all that matters is what the CTWD group say themselves in their statements and such like. Even OLM's posts on here have **** all to do with CTWD. They're his personal opinion, not the opinions of the group as a whole.
If Allam throws his toys out the pram and calls in his loan, sending the club into administration and spiralling down the leagues, would you still be infatuated with him?
Not infatuated with him, just think he is the clubs best chance of survival. Are you capable of reasoned debate without resorting to personal attacks?
Ah yes, you always respond to losing a debate by using abuse and foul language. So I think we can all take this as a signal that you've lost another one. Still didn't answer the question though did you?
Yes. Best chance of survival? We're quite alright. There's no danger of Hull going without a professional club. Even if Allam calls in all his loans it will likely lead to a fire sale, administration, rip off the creditors and go back down the leagues to where we once belonged. The club doesn't need saving it needs liberating. What you mean is, Allam is the best chance of getting Stevie G and Wayney R at the KC stadium. The premier league is all that matters really isn't it.
We're going to have to disagree. I think there is a very real chance of the club going in to administration without the Allams. If that happens then there may well be a "phoenix club" arise from the ashes, but it would not be Hull City, so you'd end up losing "your club" anyway. I think you are probably genuine with your support of the club, as am I. We just differ on how best to do it. I don't feel the need to direct personal abuse at you just because we have different opinions. The only time I would want to see "Stevie G" or "Wayney R" at the KC is if they were losing to us. (or playing for England).
Yep, losing it big style now. Try another bit of abuse, it may make you feel better. Would it help if I pretend I'm really upset? Or scared?
So Dazed, you agree that you are not in fact a Hull City Fan, you are simply what is wrong with the game now, a consumer (not that you go) of the Murdoch created "football product"
Yep, toys out of the pram, dummy out. When you finish crying why don't you put me on ignore so you don't get all tetchy and tearful again?
