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This is exactly the kind of point I was making on the thread from last week. It's easy to say that, but what exactly does that mean in the current climate? I was there too, that famous day we were locked out, it doesn't lend any credence to my argument for or against the name change. Our name is the same now as it was 100 odd years ago, and yet people are trying to lob in references to being there in the 'hard times' as though it makes a difference. Stand up and be counted now, don't just lean back on the bar and say "I was there in 1960" like the memories are all the matters. The battle is now. If you're tied up in jaded memories of Division 3 then fine, enjoy those times, but realise that we're dealing with reality, not some jaded pipe dream.
Why, and I mean this whole heartedly, have you mentioned that?
Re: those booing - "useful idiots" is the phrase that comes to mind to quote Stalin. I prefer the term "complete ****s." It would have been better if those booing had just sung their appreciation for what they perceive Allam is trying to do. not make their angst felt by directing it at fellow supporters. Total scum poppered out on the dream of the Premier League.
are you deliberately ignoring what i'm getting at or just too thick to understand?
I DON'T WANT THE NAME TO CHANGE BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CLUB, I LOVE ITS HISTORY, I LOVE THE EXPERIENCE AND MEMORIES I'VE PICKED UP ALONG THE WAY, AND I LOVE THE NAME AND DON'T WANT IT CHANGING BY SOME FLY-BY-NIGHT TEMPORARY LIGHTHOUSE KEEPER WHO'LL BE GONE LONG BEFORE I AM.
is that any clearer?
Why the **** do you want us to change our name ??
Why does ANYONE want us to change our name ??
That's the point really some think they are real supporters and think others are not because they don't agree with their opinion.
Well it seems on here their are a few who think they are the only real supporters and because they may have been supporters when the bad times were here only their opinion matters,well their are also supporters that have been watching Hull a lot longer then they have and just want to watch football in Hull and to me it seems as long as the word Hull is there it really is not an issue for them,and why should it be as they support Hull.
This is the worst thread I have ever read on this or any other messageboard.
Our fans are simply a disgrace, the worst in the whole of football. Everton change the badge slightly and there are protests, boycotts and the club rollover and give the fans what they want. It's the FANS club afterall. And this was just a badge, clubs modify them regularly. Our owner on the other hand - a man who knows nothing about football and to this day thinks we are called Hull City Tigers - tries to change the name, THE one constant in our club's entire history. And what do our fans do in response? They rollover and get arsef**ed cos they want to see Stevie G on our pitch.
What a bunch of absolute c**ts.
Our fans are simply a disgrace, the worst in the whole of football. Everton change the badge slightly and there are protests, boycotts and the club rollover and give the fans what they want. It's the FANS club afterall. And this was just a badge, clubs modify them regularly. Our owner on the other hand - a man who knows nothing about football and to this day thinks we are called Hull City Tigers - tries to change the name, THE one constant in our club's entire history. And what do our fans do in response? They rollover and get arsef**ed cos they want to see Stevie G on our pitch.
What a bunch of absolute c**ts.
Don't know about it being the worst thread, but it's hard not to agree with the rest.
Ah now that's a question many think that the only supporters are people who were there in the bad days all the way through to the present and think it's only their opinion that matters,many others have been going less to watch Hull but still pay to watch them,others may not be able to afford to go but buy things from the club when they can to show support wether it's for them or their kids,how do you define a supporter.
Being able to sing a few words does not make you a real supporter no matter what you are singing about.
Just because some are not as worried about change as others does not mean they are not supporters that is pathetic and that is not rocket science either,some think Allam has done a good job and knows what he is doing in business and think if he thinks changing the name helps then so be it they will give him the chance obviously others don't think that way most are supporters but have different opinions of the situation so opinion does matter it seems.
I think a supporter is all of the above,and on the name change subject i like our name now and hope it can be resolved amicably but i am not going to change my life if it changes, Allam has done good for this club and as potty as he may be he is doing most things good for the club so i won't berate him over a name change and i very much appreciate and support what he has done for this club.
Rather than just being angry with you, I'll come back to ask a question:
I have zero doubt whatsoever that Allam's end-game is to have a non-geographically linked football team. After changing the name to Hull Tigers the next step in his plan is to remove the word Hull. He also wants us to have our home outside of the city in a nondescript place. Think the Juventus model if you like, not linked to a city in any way and therefore the best supported club in the country by an absolute mile. I think they have 5 times more registered fans than any other Italian club.
So to the question....
If Allam gets his initial name change and stays on as owner, when does it become 'a step too far'? You say you support the team from Hull, will you support his team if he moves them out of the city's boundary? He has already very publicly said he wants to do this so if he wins his initial name change battle he will view it that he has a mandate to move the stadium. I mean, the fans can hardly complain, he's already said he wants to do this. And then what if he drops the name Hull so it simply become Tigers - is that too far for you?