Hull Pride

[Leon...]

Au contraire Leon, whilst I happily tick many gammon boxes, I don't recognise myself in the xenophobic misanthrope to which you allude.

'Chav' is a lazy and shockingly-overused word, used mainly by social snobs many of whom are fur coat and no knickers themselves. I recommend Michael Collins' book 'The Likes of Us' to those interested in the demonisation of the type of people labelled 'chavs'.

Surely it is possible to question the wisdom of the police flying 'me too' trendy symbols ? Have we become so binary?

On the whole, a decent thread if it developed a little too much into a Connors - Borg base line rally type exchange.

We definitely need the new season to begin. The troops are tired of being confined to barracks and are starting to get fractious.

Of course, it’s right to question everything.

But, surely, the resounding issue of this discourse was of the group’s actions, not whether the police’s decision to fly the flag was ‘arbitrary’ or ‘official’ - which seemed to dominate the thread.

In my opinion, considering the police’s past history with LGBT groups and rights, they need to show that they now are inclusive of such, which, will surely help present a more just force.

Muslims were also shoehorned into this debate. Muslims are, as I’m sure you know, incredibly diverse. I’ve known Muslim men and women from different ethnicities holding various kinds of roles and professions with an obvious mix of views. A lot of the posts concerning Muslims came across as generalised stereotypical bullshit with a dubious underlying intent.

I also utterly condemn the use of the word chavs. But you see it used casually, everywhere, often without thought. It’s all part of demonising/blaming/scapegoating of certain peoples, pitting them against each other to keep them weak and divided.

 

[Dills double deckers]

This thread may well give the " new owners " one a run for its money.

 

[Barchullona]

Of course, it’s right to question everything.

But, surely, the resounding issue of this discourse was of the group’s actions, not whether the police’s decision to fly the flag was ‘arbitrary’ or ‘official’ - which seemed to dominate the thread.

In my opinion, considering the police’s past history with LGBT groups and rights, they need to show that they now are inclusive of such, which, will surely help present a more just force.

Muslims were also shoehorned into this debate. Muslims are, as I’m sure you know, incredibly diverse. I’ve known Muslim men and women from different ethnicities holding various kinds of roles and professions with an obvious mix of views. A lot of the posts concerning Muslims came across as generalised stereotypical bullshit with a dubious underlying intent.

I also utterly condemn the use of the word chavs. But you see it used casually, everywhere, often without thought. It’s all part of demonising/blaming/scapegoating of certain peoples, pitting them against each other to keep them weak and divided.

I look forward towards Humberside Police's engagement with and their inclusive, non judgmental, policies towards that put upon minority, football fans.

 

[Leon...]

This thread may well give the " new owners " one a run for its money.

It shouldn’t be really.

I’d have thought any decent minded person would simply condemn the actions of this bigoted group (or not comment at all) and that would be about that.

Instead, we had pages about the police’s decision and then a load of ignorance about Muslims.

 

[originallambrettaman]

It shouldn’t be really.

I’d have thought any decent minded person would simply condemn the actions of this bigoted group (or not comment at all) and that would be about that.

Instead, we had pages about the police’s decision and then a load of ignorance about Muslims.

It's why we have a no politics/religion rule.

 

[Leon...]

I look forward towards Humberside Police's engagement with and their inclusive, non judgmental, policies towards that put upon minority, football fans.

The police are far from perfect and I suspect never will be. The way they've historically treated certain groups (and probably continue to do so) varies from wicked to stupid.

But surely the main point of this thead was about, in this day an age, a 'group' did what they did, then sent what they sent - all stemming from a Gay Pride flag.

I'd imagine the people responsible run a genuine risk of being caught and getting a criminal record - and that of a 'hate crime' - just to give oxygen to their hatred towards gays.

They've certainly besmirched the name of your town across the 'net.

 

[Leon...]

It's why we have a no politics/religion rule.

Thank **** for that.

I'd spend way too much time on here if not.

 

[Barchullona]

The police are far from perfect and I suspect never will be. The way they've historically treated certain groups (and probably continue to do so) varies from wicked to stupid.

But surely the main point of this thead was about, in this day an age, a 'group' did what they did, then sent what they sent - all stemming from a Gay Pride flag.

I'd imagine the people responsible run a genuine risk of being caught and getting a criminal record - and that of a 'hate crime' - just to give oxygen to their hatred towards gays.

They've certainly besmirched the name of your town across the 'net.

Who is to say they are from my town? They could be from anywhere and just claiming to be from Brid.
Or people who moved from places like Leeds, Sheffield or Hull to enrich us as migrants do.

 

[Kempton]

Who is to say they are from my town? They could be from anywhere and just claiming to be from Brid.
Or people who moved from places like Leeds, Sheffield or Hull to enrich us as migrants do.

You know, if was going to make a stand against something, anything and try hammering it day after day ad nauseam.

If was so obsessed by one idea, one cause, I'm sure it wouldn't be tirade against people who love their home City.

That would be a very strange idea.

I'd probably campaign against *****philia or littering or something (litter really pisses me off).

But your obsession with people who love Hull, is just plain weird and your claim that everyone in this beautiful City believe that we live in the bestest place in the World is just very silly.

Very silly indeed.

 

[BrAdY]

Who is to say they are from my town? They could be from anywhere and just claiming to be from Brid.
Or people who moved from places like Leeds, Sheffield or Hull to enrich us as migrants do.

Brid is a ****hole

Even the beach is ****e

 

[Leon...]

Who is to say they are from my town? They could be from anywhere and just claiming to be from Brid.
Or people who moved from places like Leeds, Sheffield or Hull to enrich us as migrants do.

I never said where they were from.

They've called themselves Men of Bridlington so that's the story doing the rounds, hence why your town's name has been besmirched - unless you're of the opinion it puts Bridlington in a postive light.

 

[Quill]

****ing hell, this thread... at least Brady's drunken rants would only last a couple of pages at best, this is overkill.

Quelle surprise - Mr. I'm-Always-Right-And-Better-Than-Everyone-Also-Norwich-Is-The-Best-Place-On-Earth is a massive bigot. Who knew?

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

****ing hell, this thread... at least Brady's drunken rants would only last a couple of pages at best, this is overkill.

Quelle surprise - Mr. I'm-Always-Right-And-Better-Than-Everyone-Also-Norwich-Is-The-Best-Place-On-Earth is a massive bigot. Who knew?

People diverting attention from the core issue by asking, what they believe to be, clever questions & insinuating secondary reasons for abhorant actions in a feeble & quite pathetic attempt to hide their obvious homophobic & racist attitudes.

 

[Steven Toast]

****ing hell, this thread... at least Brady's drunken rants would only last a couple of pages at best, this is overkill.

Quelle surprise - Mr. I'm-Always-Right-And-Better-Than-Everyone-Also-Norwich-Is-The-Best-Place-On-Earth is a massive bigot. Who knew?

Isn't even the best place in Norfolk.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Isn't even the best place in Norfolk.

It was voted best in place in Norfolk by a show of fingers.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Isn't even the best place in Norfolk.

No, everyone knows that's Ipswich...

 

[Quill]

No, everyone knows that's Ipswich...

Must... resist... temptation...

 

[Steven Toast]

No, everyone knows that's Ipswich...

Swaffham.

 

[City Man]

I never said where they were from.

They've called themselves Men of Bridlington so that's the story doing the rounds, hence why your town's name has been besmirched - unless you're of the opinion it puts Bridlington in a postive light.

'Men of Bridlington' has a Churchillian ring to it, or even, if you will , echoes of Henry V's speech at Agincourt before the decisive battle.

I don't understand why Brid doesn't become the Padstow of the Humberside riviera. It has access to high quality fresh seafood and an influx of tourists in summer.

Rick Stein may not be everyone's cup of tea but he has transformed that town. Is there a decent fish restaurant there or is it just competing fish and chip shops. If you to Venice or Palermo or Naples you get pizza marinara or spaghhtti (or even a risotto) ai frutti di mare or grilled orata or branzino (apologies to the less cosmopolitan or sophisticated among you). You go to Antwerp you get the old mussels in the pot with various twists. Even in Spain (the pirates of our fishing waters) they do a paella with shrimps/prawns.

Surely someone in Brid can set up a decent sophisticated fish restaurant offering a wide range of seafood (inc lobsters!) to kick start the town's comeback?

 

[BrAdY]

'Men of Bridlington' has a Churchillian ring to it, or even, if you will , echoes of Henry V's speech at Agincourt before the decisive battle.

I don't understand why Brid doesn't become the Padstow of the Humberside riviera. It has access to high quality fresh seafood and an influx of tourists in summer.

Rick Stein may not be everyone's cup of tea but he has transformed that town. Is there a decent fish restaurant there or is it just competing fish and chip shops. If you to Venice or Palermo or Naples you get pizza marinara or spaghhtti (or even a risotto) ai frutti di mare or grilled orata or branzino (apologies to the less cosmopolitan or sophisticated among you). You go to Antwerp you get the old mussels in the pot with various twists. Even in Spain (the pirates of our fishing waters) they do a paella with shrimps/prawns.

Surely someone in Brid can set up a decent sophisticated fish restaurant offering a wide range of seafood (inc lobsters!) to kick start the town's comeback?

don't think a lobster has ever been consumed in bridlington