Match Day Thread Hull City v Aston Villa.

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bum_chinned_crab said:
If someone didn’t mention a player’s name or what he’d achieved and simply said he put in a transfer request the first time in his club career he was not being selected when fit, and then asked on that one single basis if that made them a good servant, what would the answer be?
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So, just so we are clear, when I said this:
Sterling Archer said:
So what we’ve established is a player isn’t a good servant if you only focus on the bad bits and completely ignore everything else they’ve done. Seems legit.
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It didn’t answer your question at all then? Because your above post looks like exactly what I was referring to. You didn’t say it, but you certainly implied it.
 
Sterling Archer said:
So, just so we are clear, when I said this:


It didn’t answer your question at all then? Because your above post looks like exactly what I was referring to. You didn’t say it, but you certainly implied it.
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I neither said it nor implied it.

I said Ash was a great servant.

I said if you just looked at that one incident in isolation for any player most would say they weren’t a great servant.

But to do that you would have to ignore everything else of approximately 50 measureables which could make up the collective assessment of someone being a great servant. Which I didn’t ignore.

It’s all there for you in my posts.
 
All in all and given the position we're in, 0-0 Is a good result for us. I expect a loss at Wolves, but you never know.

Did anyone else think Steve Bruce looked overly stressed, like he did when he was here?

Stay away from Hull Steve, it clearly doesn't suit you.
 
Kempton said:
All in all and given the position we're in, 0-0 Is a good result for us. I expect a loss at Wolves, but you never know.

Did anyone else think Steve Bruce looked overly stressed, like he did when he was here?

Stay away from Hull Steve, it clearly doesn't suit you.
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That's what getting 1 pt out of 9 in race for automatic does for ya
Villa have imploded
 
bum_chinned_crab said:
I neither said it nor implied it.

I said Ash was a great servant.

I said if you just looked at that one incident in isolation for any player most would say they weren’t a great servant.

But to do that you would have to ignore everything else of approximately 50 measureables which could make up the collective assessment of someone being a great servant. Which I didn’t ignore.

It’s all there for you in my posts.
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That’s fine then. I agree.
 
Top_Tiger said:
I thought the linesmen and ref where terrible it was like any time a Villa player fell over he gave a free kick, then they both bottled the penno.

So much better second half, Dawson was immense but we sat deeper which suits him. If Bowen had a right foot he’d be worth a lot of money.

Don’t get the booing former players thing, Elmo and Snodgrass where good servants, Elmo more so.
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Elmo was a disgrace in the 2015/6 season and took his ball home until the Twin Towers beckoned.

Snodgrass chose to jump from a sinking ship - can't be blamed for that, if other teams come in for him. Sad to see our know-owts booing him when he was a very good player for us.
 
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another reason why he was a ****
 
BrAdY said:
That's what getting 1 pt out of 9 in race for automatic does for ya
Villa have imploded
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Pretty much like us in the last promotion season they've had at least a couple of really bad runs taking them out of automatic contention. The difference being that Bruce calls them a big club and he won't get any support from most of their supporters.
 
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I love this player loyalty ****e from fans.

A player can leave a club for a variety of reasons and if he's half decent he becomes a ship-jumping, greedy bastard etc.

A player who hits a rough patch of form is hounded by fans and is seen as stealing a wage from the club.

Fans want 100% player loyalty as long as he gets MOTM every week, and yet give a player no loyalty if their form dips.

I can just imagine Matty Fryatt now - "Those ****s at Hull City, I gave them my best years, scored in a FA Cup semi final. But as soon as I'm injured and past it they refuse to give me a 5 year contract?! Greedy ungrateful bastards"
 
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Walter Sobchak said:
I love this player loyalty ****e from fans.

A player can leave a club for a variety of reasons and if he's half decent he becomes a ship-jumping, greedy bastard etc.

A player who hits a rough patch of form is hounded by fans and is seen as stealing a wage from the club.

Fans want 100% player loyalty as long as he gets MOTM every week, and yet give a player no loyalty if their form dips.

I can just imagine Matty Fryatt now - "Those ****s at Hull City, I gave them my best years, scored in a FA Cup semi final. But as soon as I'm injured and past it they refuse to give me a 5 year contract?! Greedy ungrateful bastards"
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I don't agree on this, it's way too broad a generalisation. A group of bad players can hide behind each other, or a player might put in a better performance after a while to get some people's hopes up so some are blinded to how bad they are most of the time. And expectations tend to go down as well, so we are happy with strikers who just run around a lot after years of having forwards who don't get shots off or shoot off target. Goalkeepers probably don't escape quite as easily. And managers are the general target for a weak squad as it's easier to put the blame on one person. The players get most of the supporters money though.
 
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