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Howe Out

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Dec 13, 2023.

  1. magpie290761

    magpie290761 Well-Known Member

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    Did you watch the game. It’s a fact
     
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    Who said it was good? It’s just accurate unlike the selective 2 in 11 and better than 2 in 11
     
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  3. ToonArmy1892

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    Tonali should be starting, i think that's pretty clear, you can't really judge him coming off the bench when we are already trailing.
     
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  4. ToonArmy1892

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    Agreed, i like the guy but i'm not that attached to him, he is a bit boring aswell truth be told, i'm more attached to Rafa for staying and getting us back up from the championship for example.
     
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    But if the players keep messing up, they don't get sacked, the manager does, rightly or wrongly, that's the reality.
     
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  6. magpie290761

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    Ideally yes but apparently was fatigued and feeling cramps after Liverpool so rested. If we want to get to the top we have to be able to do that and if he’d started and got injured we’d be complaining about that. I suppose that’s where Bunce and the technology comes in. Tbh I don’t think that one change cost us todays game
     
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  7. magpie290761

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    Unfortunately yes.
     
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  8. ToonArmy1892

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    Why? Howe is in charge of the players not the other way round.
     
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  9. magpie290761

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    Because like today it was all individual errors and nothing to do with the manager
     
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  10. Magdad

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    I can understand that, but when the same mistakes keep happening then it's the managers job to try and rectify that situation. I'd have every single one of the ****ers in training at 6am and running laps in the freezing cold, pissing rain and wind.
     
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  11. ToonArmy1892

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    Howay man, at the end of the day it falls on the manager good or bad.

    Using your logic if a player scores a good goal and we win a game 1-0, it was all down to the ability of the player...what's the point of having a manager then?
     
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  12. Toonitus

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    Under Bruce Pardew, Carver and all the others it was always the managers fault/responsibility and with Howe it's the players.

    That's the way this works right ?
     
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  13. Geordie Ginola

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    Anyone suggesting it isn’t Howes fault is just being stupid.

    Hes the manager. It’s his job. It literally IS what he is getting paid for.

    This season has been terrible. The players you can see are not feeling it.

    Howe is a boring man. A one trick pony. He’s taken us as far as he can. He knows it.

    We just have to move on now.
     
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  14. Toonitus

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    When he arrived he was a breath of fresh air! You listened to him talk and he sounded impressive, but 3 years on and you start to realise he's beige.
     
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  15. magpie290761

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    There’s a difference between tactics and individual performance
     
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  16. magpie290761

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    For some clearly
     
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  17. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    said it yesterday. He is the Bobby Martinez of the NE.
    One good season and boom, bubble burst. Odd good result to paper over the cracks.
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    I'm beginning to realise what you were saying when we had our takeover was coming from experience. Newcastle are simply the next club to join Everton as a club that tries and failed to compete. I'm pretty sure we'll end up with deductions somewhere down the line.
     
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  19. Roland Deschain

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    Again I just want to understand why people are so keen to defend him?
     
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  20. Toonitus

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    To save face? They didn't with previous managers.
     
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