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I would rather play football than watch it as well , I think as you get older you care less for the players and more for the club , City and shirt .
I for one think the average modern day player is an absolute arsehole once "he makes it" .
 
Don't really agree with resting our best player (lambert) so he can 'change the game late on'. It may all be over by then and even if it isnt they'll probably be pressing so much for the win that he will get no service. Yes it worked at city but I think you should play your best team from the off if there all fit. We proved against United we can go toe to toe with these teams why not think play lambert form the start and get 2 up before brining on an excellent sub like Mayuka or Rodriquez?
 
gomarchingin said:
I would rather play football than watch it as well , I think as you get older you care less for the players and more for the club , City and shirt .
I for one think the average modern day player is an absolute arsehole once "he makes it" .
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Childbirth is by and large is pretty gruesome and there are plenty of things I'd rather do than watch a baby come out of the business end of a woman. He will want to bee there though to see his newborn into the world. It's not something I'd want to miss if I had kids. As any parent will tell you, you put up with an awful lot when it comes to your own kids.
 
TBD said:
Don't really agree with resting our best player (lambert) so he can 'change the game late on'. It may all be over by then and even if it isnt they'll probably be pressing so much for the win that he will get no service. Yes it worked at city but I think you should play your best team from the off if there all fit. We proved against United we can go toe to toe with these teams why not think play lambert form the start and get 2 up before brining on an excellent sub like Mayuka or Rodriquez?
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If we take Lambert off and they start pressing for a win, I fancy them to get it. I think it will be crucial for him to finish the game if we're going to win it, unless we're cruising which is unlikely. We're not going to be able to stop Arsenal having most of the ball, they've done it for many years. We need to work hard and be clinical with what we can get. Lambert isn't just a match winner, but also a match retainer if we get him on the ball. Fresh legs will help him to do that. Arsenal will make it a long game and we'll need to be able to play it if we're going to win.
 
Itchen North Matt said:
If we take Lambert off and they start pressing for a win, I fancy them to get it. I think it will be crucial for him to finish the game if we're going to win it, unless we're cruising which is unlikely. We're not going to be able to stop Arsenal having most of the ball, they've done it for many years. We need to work hard and be clinical with what we can get. Lambert isn't just a match winner, but also a match retainer if we get him on the ball. Fresh legs will help him to do that. Arsenal will make it a long game and we'll need to be able to play it if we're going to win.
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Fair enough I guess it makes sense. I just dont like the idea of leaving our best players on the bench, but if we do it and it works then ill be happy to eat my words.
 
tomw19 said:
I would play him from the start. Arsenal aren't great at defending against tall strikers.
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Might need to rephrase this in the sense that we weren't a premier league club last season but we are now. Arsenal look better at the back in the first three games of this season than they have for a long time including taking pretty good care of Stoke away from home which is about as "tall" or "rough" as any team is going to be this year (without trying to do Stoke a disservice). It's going to be a tough game and we'd do well to take a good point from it but we are going to have to score because I can't see how we will keep a clean sheet against them.
 
TBD said:
Fair enough I guess it makes sense. I just dont like the idea of leaving our best players on the bench, but if we do it and it works then ill be happy to eat my words.
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It's a tough call really. Rickie was finished after an hour on Sunday (also Puncheon), and after that the game changed. On the other hand if you sit and wait he might never get the change to change the game. But that's why Nigel is paid the big bucks I suppose. I'd start him, and everyone else who started v Utd, by the way (if fit).
 
I would start all of them, bar Gazza. The boss needs to have a look at them playing. Ramirez forJWP, Mayuka for Lallana so he can be with his kid and Yoshi for Jose
 
PompeyLapras said:
It's the birth of his child, it's literally a one off event. Yes, he may have other kids but this is literally the only time he can be there for the birth of this child, it's not something that he can go back to in the future. He can play for Southampton another day perhaps. I don't doubt for one minute that any parent would say being their for the birth of their kid is a waste of time.

Plus, if you consider being there for the birth of your child unimportant, surely football is even less important? Unless 22 guys kicking around a ball is somehow more important than either family or human life.
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I'm just saying that I don't think it's that important to be there for the birth of your child.Just get on with it.
 
Qwerty said:
It's a tough call really. Rickie was finished after an hour on Sunday (also Puncheon), and after that the game changed. On the other hand if you sit and wait he might never get the change to change the game. But that's why Nigel is paid the big bucks I suppose. I'd start him, and everyone else who started v Utd, by the way (if fit).
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If we're having him on the bench and bring him on as part of a gameplan, I'd expect Nigel would have it planned and we'd only hold it back if there was a very good reason to do so. Lambert will have a massive part to play in this game. The first half is likely to be high on running and low on chances, so imo keep him fresh for when he can impact on the game.
 
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I'm just saying that I don't think it's that important to be there for the birth of your child.Just get on with it.
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for most men its not a big deal, but for the wife its pretty huge and if you are not there then you have to live with her giving you **** for the rest of your life- so take the day off work and get your arse to the hospital Adam
 
You know what's going to piddle me off while watching Saints play Arsenal, next week..? Watching Oxo and Theo playing for them, that's what. I shall groan every time Chamberlain gets past Fox. I'm half hoping Luke Shaw plays at LB.
 
benditlikeabanana said:
for most men its not a big deal, but for the wife its pretty huge and if you are not there then you have to live with her giving you **** for the rest of your life- so take the day off work and get your arse to the hospital Adam
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Most women would also rather be at a football match than at the birth of their child, but don't have the choice.<laugh> If a man really doesn't want to be there for the actual birth, no one should force him, but he should be at the hospital and not elsewhere (unless unavoidable). Believe me when you know your child is in the world, you will want to see it as soon as possible. Hopefully, Adam's tot will be early and he can be at the match.
 
Mr.Gaston Ramirez said:
Yes, of course, but I think that it's not that important to be in the hospital just to see your little baby crying and covered in slime.The babies always want to be next to their mothers anyway, so your just wasting your time at the hospital.
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Oh dear! Sometimes us older chaps get moaned at for calling younger people immature. This is one occassion where actually having had the experience makes commenting on this post fairly useful.

What a daft comment about babies wanting their mothers. My wife had difficulties during her first birth so it was a good job someone was there to take and feed the baby.

I pity your partner in the future when you give it the "it's my job" line. It be useful for you to train as a lawyer.
 
Mr.Gaston Ramirez said:
I'm just saying that I don't think it's that important to be there for the birth of your child.Just get on with it.
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Not trying to patronise you but as you said yourself you're fairly young for kids at the moment so that view may welchange later in your life. I became a dad for the first time in Feb, and quite simply there is no way I would not have been there. You've got to remember that the pregnancy itself from the moment she tells you holding a little blue stick, to the end result, as a man you should be there! You were just as responsible for the little thing coming into the world so you should have to be there for the hard bit. Besides its the most beautiful yet disgusting thing in the world
 
I love that last sentence Lincoln Saint. Two of the best days of my life were being there for the births of my children and holding the tiny things and thinking, "wow, I made this"

Those first few moments are very special.
 
Well said Lincoln i have three teenagers in the house and if Mr Gaston thinks childbirth is the nasty bit of parenthood he is misguided and in for a shock.To the original point when you shell out a record fee as we have for Ramirez stick him in the side and tell him to go and earn the big wedge we pay him every week
 
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