HOW LONG DO WE GIVE HIM ?

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Balance surely doesn't depend on having this or that particular player, e.g. that you have Skipp where previously you had Tettey? Isn't balance to do with overall approach, playing strategy and tactics? Those will determine what type of player you need. How good those players are at delivering what is needed from them is another question.
Also, lack of balance may be concealed by opposition deficiences, which I think applied under Farke. What Championship sides lacked the quality to expose became brutally evident once promoted.
The defensive midfield role that Skipp played made it a simplistic 5 in defence and 5 in attack, that’s pretty balanced. I’d say you can have a balanced structure but not achieve balance if players don’t execute their roles or aren’t good enough to perform their role.
 
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Says who? Max has made 13 appearances out of Bournemouth's 14 matches played (12, EPL, 2 EFLC), starting 11 of them, and including starting at RB in the last game, the 2:0 win over Newcastle. Doesn't strike me as being the record of a player "having a mare".
3rd worst defense -
 
9 points from the next 5 games would put us on 29 from 19. I would say that 30+ points at halfway makes us safe. This season I don't really ask for more. What we don't want is promotion. We'd crack Derby's record next year. Let the Binmen make that little but of unwanted history.
 
9 points from the next 5 games would put us on 29 from 19. I would say that 30+ points at halfway makes us safe. This season I don't really ask for more. What we don't want is promotion. We'd crack Derby's record next year. Let the Binmen make that little but of unwanted history.
Little but what ?
 
Start looking at the bigger picture people. If, when the time comes to renew season tickets, we are mid/lower position in the league and still have Wagner in charge, how many people will fork out several hundred pounds to watch another season of the same at the time of a cost of living crisis. Our average gate drops beneath 20K and we are in real financial trouble.
 
I'm blindly hoping Batth is the miracle cure to our embarrassing defence & we'll improve with him in central defence.
Eventually Hanley will return & Barnes & Sargent come back then we'll improve, centre backs playing on the half way line hasn't really paid off so hopefully Wagner will try & address that
Blind hope Rick <laugh>:emoticon-0105-wink:
 
The only thing worse than the performances is his decreasing list of pathetic excuses. I cannot claim that what I know is applicable across the board but my son is part of a group of 5 who sit together. Two have said they are not renewing and another will not renew if Wagner is still there. There are 4 remaining of the group of friends who used to sit with me - two are not renewing. If that is anywhere near the position across the board then financial disaster looms unless really drastic action is taken on the wage bill and player sales. I appreciate that the cost of getting rid of Wagner and his motley crew is going to add to the financial burden but what other choice is there?
 
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What is Wagner’s playing record since he started at CR?
According to wikipedia, under Wagner NCFC have: Played 37, won 14, drawn 7, lost 16. 49 points in 37 games, or extrapolating to a full 46 game season, a 61 point campaign which would have been good enough for 13th last season (where we finished).

For that reason, manager contracts are nutty. I don't know why clubs do that.
I think it's priced in at this point, manager salaries are essentially double their weekly pay, as paying them off early is assumed. Still doesn't make it smart, and you'd hope there's some kind of performance clauses in the contract to make life easier for the board.
 
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For that reason, manager contracts are nutty. I don't know why clubs do that.
I'm guessing like Farke after promotion, his stock was high & other clubs wanted his services so he negotiated a long contract with us rather than leave .

After months of depressing defeats & the hope change may keep us in the money bags league we relieve him of his duties but his contract still has years on it that Webber contracted him to fulfil.
The Smith contract was probably less expensive as he achieved nothing.

Perhaps they should have a useless bastard clause where they get removed without pay for horrible results ?
They get performance bonuses for success
 
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and you'd hope there's some kind of performance clauses in the contract to make life easier for the board.

You would hope so, DH. But it doesn't sound like it because people are worried that we can't afford to fire a coach.

btw: I'm not for getting rid of DW, yet.
 
I'm guessing like Farke after promotion, his stock was high & other clubs wanted his services so he negotiated a long contract with us rather than leave .

After months of depressing defeats & the hope change may keep us in the money bags league we relieve him of his duties but his contract still has years on it that Webber contracted him to fulfil.
The Smith contract was probably less expensive as he achieved nothing.

Perhaps they should have a useless bastard clause where they get removed without pay for horrible results ?
They get performance bonuses for success

A "UB" clause should be standard when hiring coaches. Instead it sounds like a golden parachute in a CEO's contract.