How long do we give him?

[Canary Rob]

Come on guys, how many points did you really expect at citeh well that's how many you got, it's one game, 3 points from the next, WHU, things will look better. And I am still smarting from last year

Sorry, it has to be said, but I think you'll find you've missed the point. People are unhappy with the performance f our players, not the result per se.

As good as Man City were clinically, we were truly dreadful. 7-0 almost flattered us. We would have generally been ok with 3-1 loss or something like that, nothing unexpected, but it was the manner of the defeat that was so demoralising.

 

[ThaiCanary]

Sorry, it has to be said, but I think you'll find you've missed the point. People are unhappy with the performance f our players, not the result per se.

As good as Man City were clinically, we were truly dreadful. 7-0 almost flattered us. We would have generally been ok with 3-1 loss or something like that, nothing unexpected, but it was the manner of the defeat that was so demoralising.

Totally this

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Maybe you should get.SEVEN GORAN ERIKSSON in as manager.

 

[Wherever]

Totally this

Fair enough but there is enough poo in that division for you to stay up with the current manager, could he have chosen a better team to start

 

[tipsycanary]

Would any of the CH outers be happy if he stayed on but we changed some of the backroom team?

 

[Goldeneye175]

Would any of the CH outers be happy if he stayed on but we changed some of the backroom team?

No, it is evident he has lost not only the crowd but also the players. Time to go!

If he had any honour, he would have resigned following such an embarassing result.

As always, there are only two peeople at this club we can trust in dire times like this...Delia and David McNally

 

[tipsycanary]

No, it is evident he has lost not only the crowd but also the players. Time to go!

If he had any honour, he would have resigned following such an embarassing result.

As always, there are only two peeople at this club we can trust in dire times like this...Delia and David McNally

Not saying it should happen, rarely if ever does. But some seem to think some of the backroom staff are rubbish or they need a different character in there to help out.

Can't agree with that. Why should he resign? Wouldn't show honour at all imo

 

[Home on the range canary]

No, it is evident he has lost not only the crowd but also the players. Time to go!If he had any honour, he would have resigned following such an embarassing result.As always, there are only two peeople at this club we can trust in dire times like this...Delia and David McNally

Always a puzzle statements like this; it logically follows that whatever Delia and DM do is correct, so keeping CH at the moment (if they do) is the decision we should have faith in.

 

[General Melchett]

Always a puzzle statements like this; it logically follows that whatever Delia and DM do is correct, so keeping CH at the moment (if they do) is the decision we should have faith in.

Absolutely, if they keep him, I will back him and the team 100%. In my own mind I will be thinking that it was purely because they could not get anyone better at this time. As such, if before they have someone lined up the results by some miracle do improve then may be they'll keep him on. But I think/hope that's target has been identified and if not approached already will be soon to take over the reigns

Bah!

 

[Canary Rob]

No, it is evident he has lost not only the crowd but also the players.

I don't think it's evident that he's lost the players. Possible, but not evident.

 

[General Melchett]

I'll raise you to probable

Bah!

 

[Hairy Mary Quite Canary]

So now the players have publicly backed him via Captain Martin. I don't think that holds the same awkward sentiment as when a Chairman "backs" his manager.


I’m not ready to hit the panic button yet. We’ve had some shockers recently but we have also played well against other quality opponents. We can’t seem to score. This is a major problem and obviously needs fixing. The good news is that we have the personnel. I don’t believe that our problem lies in a lack of quality in the midfield or forwards depts. That does mean however that the way we play, tactics and integrating the team is the issue. That’s a coaching / management issue and does sit in Hughton’s lap.

My thoughts are that Hughton should be given longer though. He showed over the course of a season that he can steer Norwich into a mid-table finish. He’s brought in more quality players and needs time to get them to perform at their best. I can’t comment on his coaching prowess but if you bring in a significant number of players (and importantly) lose influential players from the dressing room, there’s going to be a period of adjustment. It will be easy for the “Hughton Out” brigade to say, “told you so” if things don’t improve before Xmas but equally, the minority that called for his head in the 2nd half of last season should be aware that they were ultimately wrong in the context of where we finished last season.

My other comfort - McNally is in charge and will make the right decision on what and when any major changes need to be made.

 

[canarie-chippy]

We were very lucky to have stayed up last season, if not for the fact we plated two teams who were "on the beach" in our last games we would have gone down.
Those six points elevated us into a false position in the table making everything look rosey in the garden, when all it did was plaster over some very alarming cracks !!
He should have been let go at the end of last season, I stand by that now and I hope the failure to boot him out won't cost us our place in the PL. But with every game he's given that looks increasingly more likely it will.

 

[canary-dave]

We were very lucky to have stayed up last season, if not for the fact we plated two teams who were "on the beach" in our last games we would have gone down.
Those six points elevated us into a false position in the table making everything look rosey in the garden, when all it did was plaster over some very alarming cracks !!
He should have been let go at the end of last season, I stand by that now and I hope the failure to boot him out won't cost us our place in the PL. But with every game he's given that looks increasingly more likely it will.

Chippy, we were safe BEFORE those last two games, mathematically safe so we were also on the beach and if you think WBA and Citeh just rolled over and let us win, then I understand why you are saying all that you do - it's because you know nothing about football! I'm sorry if you think that is harsh but it's the impression that you are giving!

 

[Swedish Dave]

We were very lucky to have stayed up last season, if not for the fact we plated two teams who were "on the beach" in our last games we would have gone down.

I see this time and time again and it drives me nuts, along with all the other ways of manipulating last season to pretend the 11th place didn't happen (did someone really suggest on another thread that you have to take out the 10 game run to get a fair assessment of the season?). If Lambert had achieved 11th in the PL people would people have been dismissing the games we won? No, more likely they would have been looking at the games where points were taken from us unfairly e.g. Arsenal away, and thinking that we could have finished even higher but for a bit of misfortune.

The league is run over 38 games and the position after those games is what counts. Thinking that WBA didn't count because they were on the beach is no more relevant than saying Norwich's drubbing of Newcastle didn't count the season before because they had no fit centre backs.

I can't help feeling that a lot of the animosity this year is pay back for there being a lot of egg on faces at the end of last season. I sense that some people took no pleasure from our best league position in 20 years

 

[Tony_Munky_Canary]

We were very lucky to have stayed up last season, if not for the fact we plated two teams who were "on the beach" in our last games we would have gone down.
Those six points elevated us into a false position in the table making everything look rosey in the garden, when all it did was plaster over some very alarming cracks !!
He should have been let go at the end of last season, I stand by that now and I hope the failure to boot him out won't cost us our place in the PL. But with every game he's given that looks increasingly more likely it will.

I honestly cannot believe people keep trotting out this bullshit It smacks of desperation, trying any way possible to belittle the achievements of last season.
It is just embarrassing to hear it time and time again, embarrassing and ignorant in equal measure

 

[Rich44]

I don't believe that on the beach mentality if you look at how we played in those games we were magnificent now whether that was due to CH I don't know but I still think that was our skill not their laziness

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[Tony_Munky_Canary]

Chippy, we were safe BEFORE those last two games, mathematically safe so we were also on the beach and if you think WBA and Citeh just rolled over and let us win, then I understand why you are saying all that you do - it's because you know nothing about football! I'm sorry if you think that is harsh but it's the impression that you are giving!

Absolutely bang on the money Dave, I can't begin to tell you how much it pisses me off to keep reading this **** and realise that people actually believe this to be true

Can you imagine the scene, we've just beaten Baggies 4-0 and then won away at the outgoing champions to achieve our highest finish for twenty years - so we call in the manager to sack him

What a bunch of muppets we would look, our club would have been a laughing stock - and quite rightly so in my opinion

 

[canarian]

Lambert did a fantastic job but he wanted to go. Now move on.

 

[Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed]

'on the beach' is an awful football cliché. that's the sort of guff usually saved for the pink'un crew or canary call i'd have thought.

i know hughton wasn't viewed as everyones cup of team last season but he still did a good job, no matter how you look at it. why would you sack a manager for doing everything you asked of him? munky is right - we would have been a laughing stock. moving on to this season, he is fair game for criticism at the moment because we haven't made the start we were hoping for and have been on the end of two batterings where we didn't turn up, but to harp on about teams being 'on the beach' (we were too against man city, if you want to play that stupid game), saying that we ended the season in a false position (total drivel - you always finish where you deserve and we spent almost the whole season 7 or 8 points above the drop zone) or saying that the ten match unbeaten streak should be ignored - the most pathetic of all arguments. as i keep saying: agenda, agenda, agenda. some people blatantly have one against the manager and have done for a long time.