Homophobic Chanting

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It's pretty much all light hearted and I might join in a little.... :-)

So I assume that our song ending in 'shoot the pompey sc*m' is now going to be banned for inciting violence and being suggestive to the children that attend games?

And, is a song such as 'the wheels on your house go round and round' insulting to gypsies and therefore should be banned?

We're football fans, not politicians :-)
 
OK I live in Liverpool. Greatest city on earth (and yes I was born in and love Southampton). My long time friends are scousers, which translates as solid people in my book. Do they get offended by the "In my Liverpool home" songs or the "Do the Social know you're here?" F*** off, of course not. They give it back.

I object to homophobic remarks, racist remarks, sexism etc etc. But come on, are these really homophobic remarks?
 
I've never been to a match with a female linesperson, so I dunno what the sexist chanting is like. Also there seems to be a lot of sexism towards the women's game, it generally seems to be seen as completely lacking in any sort of quality, which is completely not true. I agree any form of prejudice whether sexism, racism or homophobia should be condemned. To be fair though, whenever Sian Massey's name is mentioned in the BBC Live Text, it always seems to be due to her making an excellent call, which'll hopefully reduce the prevalence of sexism.
 
Kingsland block 37 said:
It's pretty much all light hearted and I might join in a little.... :-)

So I assume that our song ending in 'shoot the pompey sc*m' is now going to be banned for inciting violence and being suggestive to the children that attend games?

And, is a song such as 'the wheels on your house go round and round' insulting to gypsies and therefore should be banned?

We're football fans, not politicians :-)
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Although I don't personally find it offensive, I'm sure Pompey supporters probably do, as you're referring to them as scum. They're people, just like you and me, neither better nor worse. I would also hope that Saints supporters actually support Saints 100% of the time. Singing anti-Pompey songs is not supporting Saints, IMO. But remember, it's just my opinion.

When Father's Gun is sung and I'm actually able to attend a match, for once, I don't join in.
 
PompeyLapras said:
I've never been to a match with a female linesperson, so I dunno what the sexist chanting is like. Also there seems to be a lot of sexism towards the women's game, it generally seems to be seen as completely lacking in any sort of quality, which is completely not true. I agree any form of prejudice whether sexism, racism or homophobia should be condemned. To be fair though, whenever Sian Massey's name is mentioned in the BBC Live Text, it always seems to be due to her making an excellent call, which'll hopefully reduce the prevalence of sexism.
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Sian Massey is indeed a very good linesperson. She did a game at St Mary's and I don't recall her getting anything important wrong. Rose tinted specs on obviously.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Although I don't personally find it offensive, I'm sure Pompey supporters probably do, as you're referring to them as scum. They're people, just like you and me, neither better nor worse. I would also hope that Saints supporters actually support Saints 100% of the time. Singing anti-Pompey songs is not supporting Saints, IMO. But remember, it's just my opinion.

When Father's Gun is sung and I'm actually able to attend a match, for once, I don't join in.
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Given the fact that I live in Pompey, my wife's from Pompey and my daughter was born in the not so well known St Mary's - I reckon i'm as well placed to sing this with a smirk on my face as anyone - besides I spend every day being called a Scummer at some point in a very light hearted way and take it as such that I think I can get away with it? :-)
 
The main reason not to sing those songs is because they've become predictable, overused and boring. Football fans don't need lectures on morality from goody-two-shoes coppers and stewards who are employed to smack people around and act like heavy-handed dicks by profession, and they certainly don't need ratting in by their own fellow fans. The chants are clearly in jest as are all homosexual-based jokes. Just because some people have a fetish for getting offended about the slightest thing doesn't mean supporters should pander to them. <ok>
 
Leeds-18 said:
The main reason not to sing those songs is because they've become predictable, overused and boring. Football fans don't need lectures on morality from goody-two-shoes coppers and stewards who are employed to smack people around and act like heavy-handed dicks by profession, and they certainly don't need ratting in by their own fellow fans. The chants are clearly in jest as are all homosexual-based jokes. Just because some people have a fetish for getting offended about the slightest thing doesn't mean supporters should pander to them. <ok>
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Then it's mightily strange when fights break out, if all your doing is good naturedly taking the most enormous p!ss out of each other, why do people get all uptight..? Because they do, and that's ultimately why it's not a good idea to sing songs that will antagonise. There's winding people up, and there's going the extra insult to incite anger.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Then it's mightily strange when fights break out, if all your doing is good naturedly taking the most enormous p!ss out of each other, why do people get all uptight..? Because they do, and that's ultimately why it's not a good idea to sing songs that will antagonise. There's winding people up, and there's going to extra to incite anger.
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Almost anything can incite anger from almost anyone. Nearly all football songs directed at away fans are antagonistic to some degree and it's pretty arbitrary to get the Police fishing out cameras to single out songs they disapprove of and ban the 'offenders'. I never said it was necessarily good-natured, but then again, why does it have to be? Football's there to let people release some anger, and it would be boring to be a football fan without any. Moral crusaders can stay out of it as far as I'm concerned.
 
Leeds-18 said:
Almost anything can incite anger from almost anyone. Nearly all football songs directed at away fans are antagonistic to some degree and it's pretty arbitrary to get the Police fishing out cameras to single out songs they disapprove of and ban the 'offenders'. I never said it was necessarily good-natured, but then again, why does it have to be? Football's there to let people release some anger, and it would be boring to be a football fan without any. Moral crusaders can stay out of it as far as I'm concerned.
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Well you might find it strange then that, when I started going to The Dell in 1966, both home and away fans got along quite well. There were never any anti-opposition teams or fans songs, only supporting songs for one's own team. The modern need to sing songs against the opposition, rather than totally concentrating on one's own team is probably the biggest part of the reason why I don't miss going to football regularly as much as I probably should. I don't like the open and vocal anger amongst the crowd. And I'm not easily offended either.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Well you might find it strange then that, when I started going to The Dell in 1966, both home and away fans got along quite well. There were never any anti-opposition teams or fans songs, only supporting songs for one's own team. The modern need to sing songs against the opposition, rather than totally concentrating on one's own team is probably the biggest part of the reason why I don't miss going to football regularly as much as I probably should. I don't like the open and vocal anger amongst the crowd. And I'm not easily offended either.
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I enjoy the rivalry myself. Schadenfreude is just another way to enjoy yourself after all. And I'd say at every ground, at least 80% of songs are sung in favour of one's own team; it's hardly an opposition obsession. I'm not even saying that people should abuse any other football fan. Just that it's wrong for the Righteous Ones to start taking instrumental action against people who do choose to sing a song on a football terrace.
 
No mate. Only some of us do. It's as well to remember that the majority of a Saints crowd don't sing it.
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Oh, I never thought the entire or even the majority of the Saint's crowd sing it, just like the majority of the Portsmouth crowd don't sing about hitting Southampton fans with bricks.
 
PompeyLapras said:
Oh, I never thought the entire or even the majority of the Saint's crowd sing it, just like the majority of the Portsmouth crowd don't sing about hitting Southampton fans with bricks.
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I agree with neither songs. But I dunno the shooting does sound more plausible, possibly... like if a Pompey fan wanted to be shot?
 
This is so stupid. Just err on the side of caution and leave the gay jokes out. They're not funny anyway.
 
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