Hernandez

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Long showed what we're missing today. Got in behind us twice and forced a good save from Jakupovic, Hernandez didn't make one decent run all game. Really hope I'm wrong but I think he's gonna be the next in a long line of striker flops at City.

I used to play as Hernandez on a video game and he was really quick. I'd hoped he might be similar in real life but he just really isn't.

Are you being serious? Long was absolute garbage today, and I'm glad we got rid of him.
 
A bit harsh to blame a player for not performing when he isn't being played to his strengths. Personally, I think Bruce got his tactics wrong. We're still too slow pushing up the field, every attack of ours needed to go through 11 defenders.
Oh yeah, and Diame needs to learn how to pass. I lost count of the times he tried to run through theirdefence when there was an easy pass on. If hhe's getting marked out of the game, like he was today, that should open up spaces elsewhere.

Edit: forgot to say, Shane who? I barely noticed him today.
 
Hernandez put the yards in today, which he hasn't been doing earlier.

He looked better, although the jury is still out IMO.

He lacked support and was up against the best defence currently playing in the league.



Not really the situation to judge his overall worth.
 
captain caveman:7248712 said:
A bit harsh to blame a player for not performing when he isn't being played to his strengths. Personally, I think Bruce got his tactics wrong. We're still too slow pushing up the field, every attack of ours needed to go through 11 defenders.
Oh yeah, and Diame needs to learn how to pass. I lost count of the times he tried to run through theirdefence when there was an easy pass on. If hhe's getting marked out of the game, like he was today, that should open up spaces elsewhere.

Edit: forgot to say, Shane who? I barely noticed him today.

Barely noticed him, agree with that, but when I did notice him he was in behind us. I dunno why more strikers don't play on the shoulder.
 
Southampton have let in just 5 goals in their first 10 games - 5 less than the next best defence in the PL. Today wasn't the day to judge Hernandez, who had the disadvantage of having to play up front on his own. We have a tendency to sit deep when we play with a lone striker, so he had no support, few crosses into him - and lets not forget what he can do when given a decent cross to attack.
 
Wow some Prem league fanboys on here today, this is the best team I have ever seen representing Hull City, ok we might not have scored but the the first half was outstanding, some of the passing was breathtaking, think back only 5 years this season is a massive step up
 
Southampton got players back very quickly, filled the space on the edge of the box and Hernandez got very little opportunity to attack the ball - good play by them and not really poor play by Hernandez. Given a little more space to operate in he'll score goals but he really does need better support. We certainly missed Jelavic today.
 
Wow some Prem league fanboys on here today, this is the best team I have ever seen representing Hull City, ok we might not have scored but the the first half was outstanding, some of the passing was breathtaking, think back only 5 years this season is a massive step up

totally agree, an awful mistake for their goal, we never really created anything despite some quality passing Soton do look a quality side.
 
bobby ace:7248880 said:
Southampton have let in just 5 goals in their first 10 games - 5 less than the next best defence in the PL. Today wasn't the day to judge Hernandez, who had the disadvantage of having to play up front on his own. We have a tendency to sit deep when we play with a lone striker, so he had no support, few crosses into him - and lets not forget what he can do when given a decent cross to attack.

But the crosses were there today. There were some brilliant ones where we turned their defenders to face their own goal and it was dropping in the middle of the box. He was never anywhere near them. Huddlestone put a few balls behind them and he was late setting off and slower than the defenders every time. Brady put a couple into the left channel but he just didn't anticipate or react to anything.

I appreciate it's far too early to write him off, but the lack of service argument just can't apply today. It was actually a good team performance all round. Jelavic would surely have got on the end of some of those crosses. I think his first few games lool worryingly similar to other strikers we've signed who never settled in.
 
steverico:7248889 said:
Wow some Prem league fanboys on here today, this is the best team I have ever seen representing Hull City, ok we might not have scored but the the first half was outstanding, some of the passing was breathtaking, think back only 5 years this season is a massive step up

Completely agree with this. It was a good team performance. I don't expect us to be able to afford £10m players, but now we've paid for one I rather expected him to be a bit more involved.
 
Southampton made it hard for him to be involved with 2 deep lying centre halves, 2 defensive midfielders and full backs who tucked in, all in his way. 2nd half Ben Arfa went missing which also didn't help. He obviously could do with a 2nd striker to link up with but he looks like a goalscorer to me. We had Danny Graham last season ffs!
 
hovetiger:7249115 said:
Southampton made it hard for him to be involved with 2 deep lying centre halves, 2 defensive midfielders and full backs who tucked in, all in his way. 2nd half Ben Arfa went missing which also didn't help. He obviously could do with a 2nd striker to link up with but he looks like a goalscorer to me. We had Danny Graham last season ffs!

A goalscorer would get on the end of all these crosses. Jelavic would have scored from one of them today.
 
What is the point in him? How did he ever score 15 goals in a season? He's a decent header of the ball but he's never in the box.

Some of the balls Elmo and Brady put in today were just wonderful but where was our £10m centre forward? I've never seen us create so much without having a single decent shot.

Eh???
I dont remember us creating anything, nothing at all.

Decent shot? That would be the midfield then, who never ever shoot. Its aqlomost a crime for Livermore or Hudd to shoot.
 
Chazz Rheinhold:7249171 said:

Thats what I mean though. We must have had 1 shot all game, but there were loads of crosses that didn't get attacked and ball in and around the area where a striker was sorely missed. It was bizarre that we created loads of good positions but no shots.
 
Eh???
I dont remember us creating anything, nothing at all.

Decent shot? That would be the midfield then, who never ever shoot. Its aqlomost a crime for Livermore or Hudd to shoot.

When was the last time Livermore took a shot? He pisses about with the ball way too much. Our only goal threat from midfield is Diame.
 
Ben Arfa had a chance on the edge of the box, but it was a really weak shot.

There were some good crosses now and again.

Robertson ballooned a longer effort embarrassingly over the top and also gave the ball away a couple of times in possession.

Hernandez tried an overhead kick, well at least it was something.
 
and Diame needs to learn how to pass. I lost count of the times he tried to run through theirdefence when there was an easy pass on. If hhe's getting marked out of the game, like he was today, that should open up spaces elsewhere.

I think Diame can pass and he's a player who can actually beat others playing one-twos or just through his strength, so I like him taking the initiative as he generally doesn't give the ball away but puts pressure on.
 
Hernandez did not get the service he needed today, Ben Arfa is not the partner to play along side him, he needs a Jelly type. Elmo did not get the crosses in today that he normally does, and Brady even though had a good game, he doesn't deliver the ball into the box as well as Robertson.