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That is embarrassing.
Jeez, City were 2nd best all afternoon and knowing our team or not, Palace were just miles better than us.
Jeez, City were 2nd best all afternoon and knowing our team or not, Palace were just miles better than us.
This is why it was embarrassing Sparks, from the initial complaint you got the feeling we were trying to cheat our way out of a poor result. If they made them replay it we'd get beat again anyway, Palace are flying and fair play to them they've earned their place in this league next year.
I will add that we don't know just how far Palace have taken trying to get inside info and the club might be right to be properly pissed off. The result of the game should not be in question and we should not be asking for it to be considered though.
I will add that we don't know just how far Palace have taken trying to get inside info and the club might be right to be properly pissed off. The result of the game should not be in question and we should not be asking for it to be considered though.
Replaying, re-assessing or just voiding the result are the most ridiculous suggestions you can imagine, but that is not the underlying point, neither was the result of the game.
The "embarrassment" being suggested to the club pursuing that sort of route is quite correct, however there is no place in this game for cheats off the pitch as well as on it.
If Moody and his henchmen are found to be guilty of attempting to gain an unfair advantage, they should get the book thrown at them.
The "embarrassment" being suggested to the club pursuing that sort of route is quite correct, however there is no place in this game for cheats off the pitch as well as on it.
If Moody and his henchmen are found to be guilty of attempting to gain an unfair advantage, they should get the book thrown at them.
Oh dear....
5 pages of evidence wasn't needed - 90 minutes of rubbish was all the evidence I needed to tell me Palace could have played their under 15s team that day and won.
For goodness sake, by all means ask that individuals responsible be punished but to suggest the result doesnt stand? I thought we couldnt embarrass ourselves any more after the circus behind the scenes all season, now, having finally got a good result against a good team and looking like we were up for the relegation dogfight we come out with this rubbish 48 hours before a make or break fixture....
Incidentally, if the result doesnt stand, we are still on 29 points and Palace are still well clear of relegation. Who wins, exactly?
Not saying it should have been ignored, per se, but this is cringey
5 pages of evidence wasn't needed - 90 minutes of rubbish was all the evidence I needed to tell me Palace could have played their under 15s team that day and won.
For goodness sake, by all means ask that individuals responsible be punished but to suggest the result doesnt stand? I thought we couldnt embarrass ourselves any more after the circus behind the scenes all season, now, having finally got a good result against a good team and looking like we were up for the relegation dogfight we come out with this rubbish 48 hours before a make or break fixture....
Incidentally, if the result doesnt stand, we are still on 29 points and Palace are still well clear of relegation. Who wins, exactly?
Not saying it should have been ignored, per se, but this is cringey
Could this possibly be an attempt by CCFC to discredit Moody at a time when there is a outstanding legal matter ongoing between the parties?
After all MM is 'rubbish' & Moody 'a cheat'.
After all MM is 'rubbish' & Moody 'a cheat'.
If the club were that desperate to discredit somebody surely they could have done it in a way that didnt draw public attention to an embarrassing defeat and make a laughing stock of the club all at the same time?
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-deny-reports-asked-7001118
A Bluebirds source says the club have NOT asked Premier League bosses to consider voiding the 3-0 defeat this month
A Bluebirds source says the club have NOT asked Premier League bosses to consider voiding the 3-0 defeat this month
Dai, if anyone sends a text to anyone in the opposing club's camp with a suspected team list and it had to be reported then cue the thousands of random texts by people flying in which would each have to be reported by a club official.
I think that I will start now by sending what I suspect may be Stoke's lineup on Saturday to Dinas Caerdydd's office and then see if the club report it to the League or not. And then send another slightly modified teamsheet. It's not going to work.
Hwyl
I think that I will start now by sending what I suspect may be Stoke's lineup on Saturday to Dinas Caerdydd's office and then see if the club report it to the League or not. And then send another slightly modified teamsheet. It's not going to work.
Hwyl
If a person or persons were leaking information to the opposition, then it is right and proper that the person or persons be dealt with.
It is also reasonable that if a person or persons from the opposition were to be found asking for such information, that might or might not have an effect on the result, that such person or persons would be dealt with by that opposition club.
If the opposition club has knowledge of this behaviour and fails to act upon it, then it is right and proper that the club who had the information leaked should inform the proper authorities about said matter.
The result should not come into question unless there is doubt as to whether this had an active effect on the result, I don't believe it had, and therefore the spokesman from Cardiff, quoted by WOL, is acknowledging that correct procedure has been followed, assuming Palace knew about the cheat and failed to act upon it.
If the bbc are right, and they claim to have seen the brief? then it is a step too far to ask for the match to be made void.
It is also reasonable that if a person or persons from the opposition were to be found asking for such information, that might or might not have an effect on the result, that such person or persons would be dealt with by that opposition club.
If the opposition club has knowledge of this behaviour and fails to act upon it, then it is right and proper that the club who had the information leaked should inform the proper authorities about said matter.
The result should not come into question unless there is doubt as to whether this had an active effect on the result, I don't believe it had, and therefore the spokesman from Cardiff, quoted by WOL, is acknowledging that correct procedure has been followed, assuming Palace knew about the cheat and failed to act upon it.
If the bbc are right, and they claim to have seen the brief? then it is a step too far to ask for the match to be made void.
The way I see it the text was not send by a deluded member of the public but from a glory hunter within the Cardiff City camp and received by an official within the CP camp.
This should have been reported as soon as received, there is no doubt that CP were the best team in that game and to ask for it to be void is laughable.
I'm not sure about the rules that cover this but if proved there should be some sort of sanction.
There is a huge difference between some idiot like me texting ole and telling him who stoke are playing on saturday, and peter odemwingie texting ole and telling him stoke are playing on saturday.
The point Dai made, which I happen to agree with, is that the second Palace officials found out that somebody within the Cardiff camp had been texting them a first team, it is in everybody's best interests that the text is reported at the earliest opportunity to avoid farcical situations like the on we are in now.
I still think everybody directly involved, from either club, should be sacked for bringing their club, and the sport, into distrepute. And if not by their clubs then the fa should do it for them! (I am aware that this is not necessarily possible...)
DJ / Sweetblue - there seems to be a few of us on here who regard the reporting of the alleged incident as the correct thing to do irrespective of the game result. To allow what appears to be a blatant attempt by employees of CCFC to cause harm to the club by providing information to an opposing side would be far worse for the game as whole if it were not stamped upon. A hush hush approach seems to be favoured by some in the interests of avoiding "embarrassment".
Whether officials at Palace took advantage of the situation is the other main point. If the SMS message had been unsolicited, they should have immediately reported the incident themselves and not left themselves open to accusations of collusion.
The individuals concerned should be identified and dealt with by both clubs as well as the Premier League. I haven't noticed anything yet from CPFC - are they hoping for it to go away? If it did happen and those high enough in the echelon at Palace were made aware of it and sat on their hands, then the club needs to be reprimanded as well. No idea to what extent, but I would have thought a lot of options are open, including voiding the game.
A lot are rightly saying we wouldn't have beaten Palace on the day if we were still playing now, but that is definitely not the point.
One last thing. Apart from a comment from our Mooseville visitor, I'm surprised no one has brought this all down on Tan's head.
Whether officials at Palace took advantage of the situation is the other main point. If the SMS message had been unsolicited, they should have immediately reported the incident themselves and not left themselves open to accusations of collusion.
The individuals concerned should be identified and dealt with by both clubs as well as the Premier League. I haven't noticed anything yet from CPFC - are they hoping for it to go away? If it did happen and those high enough in the echelon at Palace were made aware of it and sat on their hands, then the club needs to be reprimanded as well. No idea to what extent, but I would have thought a lot of options are open, including voiding the game.
A lot are rightly saying we wouldn't have beaten Palace on the day if we were still playing now, but that is definitely not the point.
One last thing. Apart from a comment from our Mooseville visitor, I'm surprised no one has brought this all down on Tan's head.
I can't see any reason at all why the FA should get involved. Whatever the reason for the complaint from CCFC it stinks of sour grapes (or at least it appears to).
Can't really see what Palace have done wrong? Tried to get an advantage over an opponent? So what, happens all the time (even if it is a bit underhand). No worse than sending a spy/scout to watch oponents trainig etc.
The fault lies with the CCFC employee who actually supplied the info - his actions are at best deceitful at worst treachrous & he deserves what he gets (got). I believe sacking the fella responsible was a correct decision however going to the FA was misguided.
If I was Pulis I'd be giving the guy who requested the info in the first place a pay rise.
Can't really see what Palace have done wrong? Tried to get an advantage over an opponent? So what, happens all the time (even if it is a bit underhand). No worse than sending a spy/scout to watch oponents trainig etc.
The fault lies with the CCFC employee who actually supplied the info - his actions are at best deceitful at worst treachrous & he deserves what he gets (got). I believe sacking the fella responsible was a correct decision however going to the FA was misguided.
If I was Pulis I'd be giving the guy who requested the info in the first place a pay rise.
If Palace as club have done no wrong, then they've got nothing to fear from an investigation by the Premier League and the facts being made public.
If you want to give a cheat a pay rise, fair enough.
If you want to give a cheat a pay rise, fair enough.
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