Has Ramirez given up?

And if you got my post properly then you would realise I wasn't having a go at you. It's just every time he plays poor we get a thread saying **** like 'is he lazy or is he over hyped'. As for you not liking my opinions I don't really give a flying ****, to me you are just some random guy on a forum. I won't really have sleepless nights if some random doesn't agree with me, it's your opinion isn't it?.

Anyways Merry Xmas you ****er :p

"As for having a go" Doh! Merry Christmas Glenn! Lots of love The Random! lol
 
In the first half I sent a text to a mate, saying Ramirez doesn't look to be up for it, that was the impression I had at the time. I figured that nothing was coming from the left wing at all, the first time anyone got to the left by-line was Shaw early in the second half which provide one of the best chances in the game, once De Ridder came on there was an improvement in that department, except that Steve is a right winger, and even then, he should have taken Puncheons place after he went off. As much as I like NA he seemed to get the tactics wrong today, too many players playing out of their best positions. Also when Rickie did win the ball in the air not one player had the nous to work out where it was going to land, to capitalise upon it. As is said elsewhere, too many players didn't step up to the plate.
 
Thought he was one of the better players today, tried to make things happen. Although doesn't say much on today's game really.

I think sometimes he is on a wavelength well above the rest of the side. Ah well. Fulham next!
 
Gotta say this did look slightly evident lol. But you can't really blame him.

Watching today game I began to question Ramirez's contribution and how he was applying himself. Something said to me that he looked like a player that had thrown the towel in, a player "too good" for the poor team that was around him? Somebody, a little arrogant, saying to himself "Sod this for a game of soldiers, I hope I get sold next season!" thoughts?
A small caveat to that is he wasn't the worst player on the pitch by far! I think that award goes to the headless chicken Mayuka!
 
He was really poor and the worrying thing was it was his control which was poor for lots of the match. Also there was a point where our midfield was working hard to win the ball back and he was sauntering, barely breaking his stride, and wasn't getting back onside so even if we won the ball he wasn't giving them an option. Finally in the last minute when we had EVERYONE in the box and the ball breaks to him on the edge of the box instead of putting the ball back in he plays a clever through ball to ... no one nowhere near a read shirt madness! Anyway he's a talented player but he didn't cover himself in glory and I think today showed that probably are most influential player is Adam. Not just his skills but his passing and movement really give the team so much and we looked lost without him today.
 
A 21 year old in a flair position in a completely new league has one dodgy game and comments like this come out...

Today, Lambert barely looked like he was worth £1m so I suppose he should **** right off.

If you really think that Ramirez looked like a 12m palyer today then you were def watching a different game. Lambert today also looked poor but we only paid a million for him over 2 years ago and he has ceratinly repaid that so what is your point????
 
If you really think that Ramirez looked like a 12m palyer today then you were def watching a different game. Lambert today also looked poor but we only paid a million for him over 2 years ago and he has ceratinly repaid that so what is your point????

You're judging Ramirez on one game though, that's obviously why he brought up the Lambert example, because if you judge him on one game you can easily say he isn't worth the money we paid for him.
 
If you really think that Ramirez looked like a 12m palyer today then you were def watching a different game. Lambert today also looked poor but we only paid a million for him over 2 years ago and he has ceratinly repaid that so what is your point????

"He doesn't look like he's worth 12 million" and "he didn't look like a 12 million player today" are two very different observations, the former of which is untrue, and the latter of which is moot.
 
The game - and the conditions - didn't suit Ramirez' style really. The whole team got muscled out in the second half, and even Ricky couldn't use his strength against two hulking centre halves. Ramirez was ineffectual, but he wasn't alone in that; Puncheon was equally so. We really missed Lallana, But we were also very unlucky to concede when we did. That goal changed the whole game, because until then we'd looked comfortable if a little lethargic. In the second half, we just looked lethargic.
 
I could put this on every thread (but I won't<laugh>)...it was one game. It was an important game (but not a season definer) and it was at home, but it was still only one game. Winning against Reading didn't make us invincible and losing to Sunderland doesn't mean relegation. Adkins said we were flat today. It's easier for players to look good when the team as a whole are playing well...it all flows like silk. Think we missed Lallana in the sense that it unsettles the team as the expected things don't happen. An early goal would have changed everything...results can be on a knife edge. Let's see how we do against Fulham...that will be a test.
 
"He doesn't look like he's worth 12 million" and "he didn't look like a 12 million player today" are two very different observations, the former of which is untrue, and the latter of which is moot.

The bloke behind me, who is really ruining my season now, said this a lot and really started bitching about why we signed Ramirez instead of a pacy centre back (<yikes>). The problem is that for Gaston's well reported transfer fee some people are expecting a player who will win every single game. Football doesn't work like that. Sunderland had few difficulties dealing with any of our attacks yesterday so Nigel has to work out what will happen differently at Fulham.
 
Roberto Martínez just talking about Gastón on Goals on Sunday:

"He's got great quality in his left foot, Gastón Ramírez. He's one of those players that if he can adapt to the demands physically of the Premier League, will become an incredible talent for Southampton and the league."
 
The bloke behind me, who is really ruining my season now, said this a lot and really started bitching about why we signed Ramirez instead of a pacy centre back (<yikes>). The problem is that for Gaston's well reported transfer fee some people are expecting a player who will win every single game. Football doesn't work like that. Sunderland had few difficulties dealing with any of our attacks yesterday so Nigel has to work out what will happen differently at Fulham.

The only ones playing our short fluid, quick passing yesterday at times were Lambert and Gastón, however both had poor games overall.
 
Bloody Geordies making our players look too expensive :emoticon-0140-rofl:

You can't judge on one bad game, theres gonna be more bad games this season, accept it and move on.