Has Ehab just ground us down?

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dennisboothstash said:
Give it a rest

Some people who have been going for years have chosen not to go while the As are here, some families who'd love to go have been priced out, some people who might waver and go occasionally have chosen not to go for the same reasons, some people refused to go and be booed by their fellow fans when they protested and some people who came as a Premier League 'fan' before have decided that they've ticked that off their list so won't bother. Oh and new young people to replace all those people who've left by coming with their mates (in the normal cycle of these things that keep crowds up when people leave for all sorts of reasons, including those sadly leaving this mortal coil) have been priced out
most of those reasons (apart from those that came for one PL season and got bored) can be traced directly back to decisions taken by the As
Keep going, but don't moan about others who've chosen not to. Whether the same people chose to go under previous regimes is irrelevant (if they don't now then they obviously feel stronger now which is very telling)...and quite frankly is nothing to do do with you (unless of course you booed other City fans, in which case you might be responsible for some vacant seats)
Enjoy the games, don't worry about what others choose to do
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Those priced out by withdrawal of concessions or by circumstances beyond their control are not the problem.
I don't believe all the missing fans belong to the above categories.

Just think that collectively as a city and as a fanbase, too many people have used the Allams as an excuse to stop attending.

It is OUR club not his.
 
dennisboothstash said:
Give it a rest

Some people who have been going for years have chosen not to go while the As are here, some families who'd love to go have been priced out, some people who might waver and go occasionally have chosen not to go for the same reasons, some people refused to go and be booed by their fellow fans when they protested and some people who came as a Premier League 'fan' before have decided that they've ticked that off their list so won't bother. Oh and new young people to replace all those people who've left by coming with their mates (in the normal cycle of these things that keep crowds up when people leave for all sorts of reasons, including those sadly leaving this mortal coil) have been priced out
most of those reasons (apart from those that came for one PL season and got bored) can be traced directly back to decisions taken by the As
Keep going, but don't moan about others who've chosen not to. Whether the same people chose to go under previous regimes is irrelevant (if they don't now then they obviously feel stronger now which is very telling)...and quite frankly is nothing to do do with you (unless of course you booed other City fans, in which case you might be responsible for some vacant seats)
Enjoy the games, don't worry about what others choose to do
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I am not going the moment and don't know if I will be going that much in the future for reasons not wholly connected to football or the Allams but not going is made easier by the remaining presence of the likes of Ehab. However one difference nowadays is that previously, even when down to crowds of 3,000 with crooks and charlatans running things and no thought of any future success,those of us who kept going thought that no matter what "this is our club". That is no longer the case and I can think of a few who were at BP for the Southend game whilst the sort of people who make up too much of a KC crowd were at Wembley who have walked away at the time of our greatest success. God help us if we slip down the leagues again, the new type fans will soon disappear and the old type ones will have found there are other ways of spending Saturdays.
 
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Castro's Coffin said:
I am not going the moment and don't know if I will be going that much in the future for reasons not wholly connected to football or the Allams but not going is made easier by the remaining presence of the likes of Ehab. However one difference nowadays is that previously, even when down to crowds of 3,000 with crooks and charlatans running things and no thought of any future success,those of us who kept going thought that no matter what "this is our club". That is no longer the case and I can think of a few who were at BP for the Southend game whilst the sort of people who make up too much of a KC crowd were at Wembley who have walked away at the time of our greatest success. God help us if we slip down the leagues again, the new type fans will soon disappear and the old type ones will have found there are other ways of spending Saturdays.
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Is that all the Allams or is it the gentrification, seats, sanitised atmospher as well? If/when the Allams do go and we get new owners will that feeling come back? Not sure it will.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Is that all the Allams or is it the gentrification, seats, sanitised atmospher as well? If/when the Allams do go and we get new owners will that feeling come back? Not sure it will.
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I should have mentioned the general gentrification of football in my grammar mistake ridden diatribe as well actually
 
hate to say it but all your boycotting, wont count for ****.
you will be replaced by other fans that arent quite as bothered about AA as you.
<shrug>

principles eh?
 
City Man said:
Those priced out by withdrawal of concessions or by circumstances beyond their control are not the problem.
I don't believe all the missing fans belong to the above categories.

Just think that collectively as a city and as a fanbase, too many people have used the Allams as an excuse to stop attending.

It is OUR club not his.
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oh? just how much did you pay for it?
 
City Man said:
Those priced out by withdrawal of concessions or by circumstances beyond their control are not the problem.
I don't believe all the missing fans belong to the above categories.

Just think that collectively as a city and as a fanbase, too many people have used the Allams as an excuse to stop attending.

It is OUR club not his.
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Sorry but hes sucked the Fun out of it for me.
And thats a fact wether you agree/like it or not.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Is that all the Allams or is it the gentrification, seats, sanitised atmospher as well? If/when the Allams do go and we get new owners will that feeling come back? Not sure it will.
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It is, as you suggest, a mixture of these things. Though for many the Allams were the straw that broke the camel's back* . If I find at age 65 feel that the "match day" experience is a subdued, soulless one with all the excitement and atmosphere of an evening at the theatre reverentially watching a rather serious play then heavenmkjiws what younger ones make if it. It has been mentioned often before, but would have those who got hooked on the game in the 1960s and 1970s because of the atmosphere, the singing and swaying on the terraces, become as hooked if their first experience of a game being a typical Saturday afternoon nowadays. That is apart from the fact it is no longer possible in most cases to take a spur of the moment decision to go to a game,,especially an away one.

*Hoary old cliche alert.
 
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