Grassing!

The youngsters today are not following in the footsteps of their parents and ignoring the drinking and gambling rules more and more, and lie to their parents to keep things sweet.

Not strictly speaking true imho.

The first generation of certainly Pakistani were very much taken in by the bright light big city syndrome and went off the rails.

The younger ones followed in their footsteps and are less likely to cover it up

Of course there will be incidences of what you describe, but generally speaking it's hidden less so now
 
I trained up 3 Bangladesh kids and one 2nd generation Afghani from East London in 2012 and they were all fired for stealing within 3 years and lost their licenses.

Wasseem was the token poster boy to show how diverse we were.


If we are speaking of Muslims then I've always known Turks to be involved in casinos and albanians. Usually connected to some organisation in their Homeland too

With regards to casino theft I read a report once that said casinos attribute 50% of stealing to staff
 
If we are speaking of Muslims then I've always known Turks to be involved in casinos and albanians. Usually connected to some organisation in their Homeland too

With regards to casino theft I read a report once that said casinos attribute 50% of stealing to staff
A. There are no Turkish run casinos in the UK
B. You just made that 50% stat up
C. You are a compulsive liar and no matter what subject is raised , you convince yourself that you are connected in that industry and an expert.
You could even walk into a casino and start dealing games if you wanted to but you wouldn't want to for religious reasons.

So I'll humour you who do you know at Bolton Grosvenor and what do they do there ?
 
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A. There are no Turkish run casinos in the UK
B. You just made that 50% stat up to
C. You are a compulsive liar and no matter what subject is raised , you convince yourself that you are connected n that industry and an expert.
You could even walk into a casino and start dealing games if you wanted to but you wouldn't want to for religious reasons.

So I'll humour you who do you know at Bolton Grosvenor abd what do they do there ?

I specifically said "involved"

Stoke Google:

As with most industries, theft/loss is the primary concern for security directors when
installing a physical security solution. Customer crime in casinos is large but the chief cause
of concern for casino owners is employee crime. It involves internal losses and collusion
which can be more sizable in the amount of money / property lost as a cumulative effect.
Many sources document that nearly 50% of all losses incurred by casinos are attributed to
employee theft.


Omrod Rd casino, John docherty main man


I know I know tedious right?
 
I specifically said "involved"

Stoke Google:

As with most industries, theft/loss is the primary concern for security directors when
installing a physical security solution. Customer crime in casinos is large but the chief cause
of concern for casino owners is employee crime. It involves internal losses and collusion
which can be more sizable in the amount of money / property lost as a cumulative effect.
Many sources document that nearly 50% of all losses incurred by casinos are attributed to
employee theft.


Omrod Rd casino, John docherty main man


I know I know tedious right?
So you didn't just disappear to Google Grosvenor casino general manager Bolton?
 
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So how or why would a non drinking non gambling Muslim from Stoke be friends with a Casino general manager from Bolton?
 
So how or why would a non drinking non gambling Muslim from Stoke be friends with a Casino general manager from Bolton?

You know I lived and worked in Bolton right?

My Mrs is from horwich

I wasn't always good, I fractured the odd law in my time, although bar the odd machine at amusement arcades I've never gambled in casinos eg no roulette or cards etc
 
This is where you can't help but **** up.
You claimed you could get me a job working at Bolton Grosvenor, I have worked for Grosvenor in 3 of their venues by the way .

So I asked who do you know and what do they do ?




You replied John Docherty after googling it

And then when you know that you have been sussed , you change it to .

'But truthfully I don't know John, I know a couple of peoplewho work in Bolton casino though. One is a Turkish bloke and one is a friend's ex mrs'

There is nothing truthful about you and you live in a make believe world with an ever changing back story.

It's really quite tragic the lengths you go to .

When called out about being buddies with hook hands and Choudary today the story has changed to , you used to travel all the way from Stoke to London to argue with them.

Before you used to visit Choudary and drink tea with him .

The story recently changed to you met him once when he came to Stoke to your house to buy something.


If you are going to be a compulsive liar you need to have a better memory than the people you peddle your bullshit to.

It's really quite tragic the lengths you go to .
 
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So how or why would a non drinking non gambling Muslim from Stoke be friends with a Casino general manager from Bolton?
You know I lived and worked in Bolton right?

My Mrs is from horwich

I wasn't always good, I fractured the odd law in my time, although bar the odd machine at amusement arcades I've never gambled in casinos eg no roulette or cards etc


You just admitted that you don't know this John Docherty guy never gambled in a casino but played fruit machines in an arcade.

Just now you were the go to man for a Pit boss position in Bolton because you have contacts in the right places .

<doh> Just try to be yourself and stop lying mate you just end up looking silly everytime you get found out.
 
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This is where you can't help but **** up.
You claimed you could get me a job working at Bolton Grosvenor, I have worked for Grosvenor in 3 of their venues by the way .

So I asked who do you know and what do they do ?




You replied John Docherty after googling it

And then when you know that you have been sussed , you change it to .

'But truthfully I don't know John, I know a couple of peoplewho work in Bolton casino though. One is a Turkish bloke and one is a friend's ex mrs'

There is nothing truthful about you and you live in a make believe world with an ever changing back story.

It's really quite tragic the lengths you go to .

When called out about being buddies with hook hands and Choudary today the story has changed to , you used to travel all the way from Stoke to London to argue with them.

Before you used to visit Choudary and drink tea with him .

The story recently changed to you met him once when he came to Stoke to your house to buy something.


If you are going to be a compulsive liar you need to have a better memory than the people you peddle your bullshit to.

It's really quite tragic the lengths you go to .


You do like to make **** up when you are rattled and either resort to my religion or people I met or both.

If I like why would I say truthfully I don't know John? I simply gave you the road and the main man.

The problem is not my memory but yours. Abu Hamza was imam at Finsbury park.
You claimed I went to anjems house, I said no but he came to mine and bought my car

I've argued/discussed with him in stoke and other places. Including leeds, London, Birmingham etc. How? They used to do big events all around the country

Not just anjem or Muslims either, it was something I did with christians, atheists too. I enjoy the debates even just listening.

I even "talk" to you at 3 in the morning
 
You just admitted that you don't know this John Docherty guy never gambled in a casino but played fruit machines in an arcade.

Just now you were the go to man for a Pit boss position in Bolton because you have contacts in the right places .

<doh> Just try to be yourself and stop lying mate you just end up looking silly everytime you get found out.

It really rattles you doesn't it?

A word of advice it's unhealthy to be this obsessed

I've never eaten pork but if you ever want a job slaughtering pigs let me know
 
You do like to make **** up when you are rattled and either resort to my religion or people I met or both.

If I like why would I say truthfully I don't know John? I simply gave you the road and the main man.

The problem is not my memory but yours. Abu Hamza was imam at Finsbury park.
You claimed I went to anjems house, I said no but he came to mine and bought my car

I've argued/discussed with him in stoke and other places. Including leeds, London, Birmingham etc. How? They used to do big events all around the country

Not just anjem or Muslims either, it was something I did with christians, atheists too. I enjoy the debates even just listening.

I even "talk" to you at 3 in the morning
So when you said that you could hook me up with a job at a Bolton casino dispite never even going into a casino in your life and the main man or GM of the casino that you said you are friends with but then said you have never met before ?

Which parts were true ?

If you have never been In a casino then why would you know that Docherty is the main man ?

You can see how this looks like you just googled Bolton Grosvenor main man and hoped I would swallow your fantasy story ?
 
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So when you said that you could hook me up with a job at a Bolton casino dispite never even going into a casino in your life and the main man or GM of the casino that you said you are friends with but then said you have never met before ?

Which parts were true ?

If you have never been In a casino then why would you know that Docherty is the main man ?

You can see how this looks like you just googled Bolton Grosvenor main man and hoped I would swallow your fantasy story ?


Never said I was friends with John. In fact told you truthfully I only knew 2 people worked there.

I also never said I haven't been in a casino, I said I hadn't gambled in one
 
It really rattles you doesn't it?

A word of advice it's unhealthy to be this obsessed

I've never eaten pork but if you ever want a job slaughtering pigs let me know
So now you revert back to your initial claim that you can arrange careers in casinos .
Dispite never even setting foot in one and the guy that would arrange it you have never even heard of until you googled it ?

Just hold your hands up and admit you lied about the whole thing.
 
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Never said I was friends with John. In fact told you truthfully I only knew 2 people worked there.

I also never said I haven't been in a casino, I said I hadn't gambled in one
So you can't arrange jobs in casinos ?
You don't know Mr Docherty?
And you didn't lie about anything at all ?

Gotcha crystal clear mate .
 
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So now you revert back to your initial claim that you can arrange careers in casinos .
Dispite never even setting foot in one and the guy that would arrange it you have never even heard of until you googled it ?

Just hold your hands up and admit you lied about the whole thing.


Is reading an issue for you? Who said I haven't been in a casino?

And what I actually said to your cheap, snidey comment a few pages back was:

That said if you ever need a job I might be able to hook you up in Bolton grosvenors

They might think you're crap and not want you, considering you were made redundant twice before it may work against you. Hence "might"
 
So you can't arrange jobs in casinos ?
You don't know Mr Docherty?
And you didn't lie about anything at all ?


Is it a lie to say truthfully I don't know John but know 2 people who work there?

And which part of

That said if you ever need a job I might be able to hook you up in Bolton grosvenors

Suggests it's a shoe in guaranteed job arrangement?

I can but put a word in, that said with your obviois lack of attention to detail and bad comprehension skills I would like to withdraw my offer.