Gonzo's Erection Thread

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Because we send them off to fight in real conflicts...stupid ones yes, but real all the same.

Police are generaly unarmed?

Dunno about mainland police but its actually quite tough to get in over here. Because they are all armed i suppose. A few of my mates aced the physical but fell down at the psych/scenario tests

Anyone who objects to these atrocities in their name should imo be thinking what can i do to clear my religions name.

If they go try and fail at least they tried.

Hell form a police volunteer system of some sort and sign up to it. Whatever.

Its time to act really not talk. Imo manchester was final straw and this london bridge one is into active hate crime potential territory.

Next time one is done some poor guy whos nothing to do ith it could be strung up.

 

[Mr Beej]

For me the only question i have is why for every one linatic who kills is there not 10 or 20 signing up for army, police etc etc.

In france have there been volunteers like this or am i only wishfully thinking people ought to do it

Haven't you heard? We are cutting back on Police not recruiting.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Anyone who objects to these atrocities in their name should imo be thinking what can i do to clear my religions name.

If they go try and fail at least they tried.




Hell form a police volunteer system of some sort and sign up to it. Whatever.

Its time to act really not talk. Imo manchester was final straw and this london bridge one is into active hate crime potential territory.

Next time one is done some poor guy whos nothing to do ith it could be strung up.

By pitchforks whose only raison d'etre is to wait for a reason to stri g someone up

 

[DirtyFrank]

Anyone who objects to these atrocities in their name should imo be thinking what can i do to clear my religions name.

If they go try and fail at least they tried.

Hell form a police volunteer system of some sort and sign up to it. Whatever.

Its time to act really not talk. Imo manchester was final straw and this london bridge one is into active hate crime potential territory.

Next time one is done some poor guy whos nothing to do ith it could be strung up.

Sorry mate...thought you meant in general as in non muslim guys reacting and joining up.

Probably same reasons theres a low ethnic participation in general..fear of insitutuonal racism, fear of backlash from those very people in your community....all with nothing but a baton and cs cannister to protect you.

 

[DirtyFrank]

Id say the intelligence services would outright want muslim joiners...

 

[DirtyFrank]

Haven't you heard? We are cutting back on Police not recruiting.

Is there not a difference between anti terrorist unit recruitment and community policing?

I dunno what the current "normal" crime figures are. Are they up or down over there?

 

[FedLadSonOfAnfield]

I think a lot of guys are ready to go if something else happens I mean not like lynch mobs and pitchforks against Muslims and all that and I hope that never happens but against the ****s who are pulling this ****. Like in London Bridge guys charged these ****ers down trying to stop them. If I was in a shopping centre with a bag full of fresh Adidas kicks from JD (who btw have some of their nice lines in stock now) and I see some ****er trying to start an attack you know those Adidas are going on the floor and I'm spearing that ****head and beating his face till he's incapacitated and can't do what he wanted to do

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Sorry mate...thought you meant in general as in non muslim guys reacting and joining up.

Probably same reasons theres a low ethnic participation in general..fear of insitutuonal racism, fear of backlash from those very people in your community....all with nothing but a baton and cs cannister to protect you.

yeah, i meant specifically some Muslim guys feeling part of the country and standing up... now not everyone wants to be police. I don't but at some point the young lads out there either have to **** of get off the pot. You can take the looks and the inevitable discrimination that will come or you can say hey I'll volunteer to stop this it aint right.

Even though i don't agree with it the ban on religious treatment for the corpses of the london lunatics is a statement form Muslim religious leaders.

I don't agree with ban the burka or the antics on the beaches in france either... its looking at symptoms not the cause. we should note that this has gone on in france for decades and solved nothing

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I think a lot of guys are ready to go if something else happens I mean not like lynch mobs and pitchforks against Muslims and all that and I hope that never happens but against the ****s who are pulling this ****. Like in London Bridge guys charged these ****ers down trying to stop them. If I was in a shopping centre with a bag full of fresh Adidas kicks from JD (who btw have some of their nice lines in stock now) and I see some ****er trying to start an attack you know those Adidas are going on the floor and I'm spearing that ****head and beating his face till he's incapacitated and can't do what he wanted to do

I reckon the cowards i nthe BNP and the fascists who tried to march again in Liverpool show the cowardly nature of the far right.

But guys will start burning mosques and victimising muslims like they have done in the US. if nothing is done people will start carrying knives of their own round and then it'll be a whole other level.

My advice also is go for the eyes and fight dirty. I'd blind them first with the old thumbs. I think in london the three stuck together rather than run off in different directions so there's very little one guy can do with 3 knife attackers though.....

Isis wants londoners to carry knives, beat muslims to prove the hate and start wearing body armour.

but they are most interested in their own situation in syria and lybia etc than really fomenting this kind of stuff. it really is just to have places like qatar and sauid arabia fund them through fear.

you'll note that as the oil pipelines were cut off they had used the attacks on the west increased? fear = finance.

the sooner they are eradicated and have no safe haven to work the internet line form the better

 

[FedLadSonOfAnfield]

I reckon the cowards i nthe BNP and the fascists who tried to march again in Liverpool show the cowardly nature of the far right.

But guys will start burning mosques and victimising muslims like they have done in the US. if nothing is done people will start carrying knives of their own round and then it'll be a whole other level.

My advice also is go for the eyes and fight dirty. I'd blind them first with the old thumbs. I think in london the three stuck together rather than run off in different directions so there's very little one guy can do with 3 knife attackers though.....

Isis wants londoners to carry knives, beat muslims to prove the hate and start wearing body armour.

but they are most interested in their own situation in syria and lybia etc than really fomenting this kind of stuff. it really is just to have places like qatar and sauid arabia fund them through fear.

you'll note that as the oil pipelines were cut off they had used the attacks on the west increased? fear = finance.

the sooner they are eradicated and have no safe haven to work the internet line form the better

Yeah a swift kick in the nuts is also a good opening move in that situation, you've just got to take them out there's no honour, fairness or respect involved here

That's certainly one of their aims I'm sure to drag people down to their level acting like vigilantes and carrying in order to start random violent acts of hatred

The other thing is their plan of trying to restrict our lives isn't necessarily all about getting us scared to go to public venues and city centres it's about things like getting our internet, press and freedom of speech and thought restricted, one of the things May is hoping to do with internet censorship for instance. If strict kerbs come in on that then in one sense terrorism is winning. Of course people shouldn't be able to access terrorism related web content and IS stuff but just general limitations on internet use as a result of IS and 'terrorists' abusing it is not the way forward because it's exactly what these people want

And yes, partly they are trying to favour their own economic and political cause back in the middle east, I guess they see the destruction of infrastructure the west causes in Syria for example and as well as killing innocent people (which the west is also culpable of) are aiming to cause disruption and damage to infrastructure and life generally

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Yeah a swift kick in the nuts is also a good opening move in that situation, you've just got to take them out there's no honour, fairness or respect involved here

That's certainly one of their aims I'm sure to drag people down to their level acting like vigilantes and carrying in order to start random violent acts of hatred

The other thing is their plan of trying to restrict our lives isn't necessarily all about getting us scared to go to public venues and city centres it's about things like getting our internet, press and freedom of speech and thought restricted, one of the things May is hoping to do with internet censorship for instance. If strict kerbs come in on that then in one sense terrorism is winning. Of course people shouldn't be able to access terrorism related web content and IS stuff but just general limitations on internet use as a result of IS and 'terrorists' abusing it is not the way forward because it's exactly what these people want

And yes, partly they are trying to favour their own economic and political cause back in the middle east, I guess they see the destruction of infrastructure the west causes in Syria for example and as well as killing innocent people (which the west is also culpable of) are aiming to cause disruption and damage to infrastructure and life generally

I I genuinely think the aim is to get whatever they can to rise up and join the caliphate. I don't think they give a ****e about western ways etc etc. they want money, and skilled bodies but these losers they are left with are disposable so they get them to wave a few flags then suggest why don't you top yourself and take a few with you.

the only way to stand up in the world and say we did it right is to go with UN route and form a coalition force including arab states and turkey and roll tanks over the place and pacify it. take possession of the money and then shut down the propaganda routes

 

[Rubbersoul]

So.........

WHO'S WINNING THIS THING PEOPLE

 

[FedLadSonOfAnfield]

I I genuinely think the aim is to get whatever they can to rise up and join the caliphate. I don't think they give a ****e about western ways etc etc. they want money, and skilled bodies but these losers they are left with are disposable so they get them to wave a few flags then suggest why don't you top yourself and take a few with you.

the only way to stand up in the world and say we did it right is to go with UN route and form a coalition force including arab states and turkey and roll tanks over the place and pacify it. take possession of the money and then shut down the propaganda routes

Yeah NATO / UN other free democratic countries (to whatever extent they actually are) should form a temporary transnational army / peacekeeping force and **** **** up for IS, taliban remnants, all other insurgent groups and as far as possible get the place back in the hands of the largely decent peaceful governments and people who live in these places

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

So.........

WHO'S WINNING THIS THING PEOPLE

the tories. The current majority is 17 seats and was seen as a success by cameron.

I preedict may will indeed double that.. thats my opinion as outlined above. I just think the support piling in for labour will evaporate on the day.

I don't see an awful lot of hard for change voters. I see a lot of guys who are tactically voting and that is good but if the tories have the numbers to win the seat that vote is useless

 

[FedLadSonOfAnfield]

So.........

WHO'S WINNING THIS THING PEOPLE

Wouldn't like to say

Think it can definitely go either way and we may well end up with another hung parliament

 

[FedLadSonOfAnfield]

the tories. The current majority is 17 seats and was seen as a success by cameron.

I preedict may will indeed double that.. thats my opinion as outlined above. I just think the support piling in for labour will evaporate on the day.

I don't see an awful lot of hard for change voters. I see a lot of guys who are tactically voting and that is good but if the tories have the numbers to win the seat that vote is useless

probably them though since they had a decent starting majority and they just will

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Yeah NATO / UN other free democratic countries (to whatever extent they actually are) should form a temporary transnational army / peacekeeping force and **** **** up for IS, taliban remnants, all other insurgent groups and as far as possible get the place back in the hands of the largely decent peaceful governments and people who live in these places

Yeah... the issue in syria is who rules and its messy and nobody wants to touch it.

In lybia it was get gaddafi out not replace him with X. Now there's lots of militias running about no leadership and its an isis hotbed.

Sadly you need a strong man in uniform to rule them.

In egypt they ****ed out the president and army stood back and let elections occur... they elect muslim bortherhood and army then ousts them. so army runs the place

In Syria is there a general the Russians would agree to running the place? I dunno but until al asad is got rid of there will be no stability.

The only way for UN to work is define who rules after then drop on these guys and do the job then put in the dictator if needed... sadly.. will be needed.

the fact is they seem to want to go through this period of extreme religious fervour. They had kings and sheilks until deposed. Iran is religious dictatorship and influencing to drive a corridor of shia influence all the way to the med.

the suadis want sunni rule. and the two butt heads

the kurds want their own country but part is turkey, part i Syria and part is iraq... so the yanks arm the kurds and set off the next war to solve this one... No way on earth the PKK etc should be getting us arms... thats how the taliban started FFS.

SIGH>>> and all because bush and bliar had to have their own little war as their legacy. Hussain was a strong man in a uniform (a lunatic yes)

It seems to me these countries work best under a king.. failing that an army general... and anything else seems to lead to stupidity. Democracy seems alien to them right now.

 

[astro]

the tories. The current majority is 17 seats and was seen as a success by cameron.

I preedict may will indeed double that.. thats my opinion as outlined above. I just think the support piling in for labour will evaporate on the day.

I don't see an awful lot of hard for change voters. I see a lot of guys who are tactically voting and that is good but if the tories have the numbers to win the seat that vote is useless

Part of the reason for the election is May wants to pretend she has a mandate for all the things she's going to ruin, so every vote against her matters

 

[Zingy]

Theresa May is out of control...

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Me and my friends used to run through fields of wheat...that was before I sold weapons to terrorists"

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

probably them though since they had a decent starting majority and they just will

just think polls show me that in 2015 the tories had about 36/7% in 215 and ended up taking 37.8% of vote. Every poll i've seen had then on 42-44% solid vote while this labour vote has risen from 25% up.

I just think that tells me the tories have a very solid vote and will increase thier seats

http://www.bbc.com/news/election-2017-39856354

For ORB tonight's poll will be their last of the campaign. Their final figures are CON 45%, LAB 36%, LD 8% and UKIP 4%.

31 May update: How close is the gap now?
After their striking seat projection published last night, YouGov has a new poll this evening which has the narrowest gap between the main two parties so far during the campaign. It has the Conservatives on 42% and Labour on 39% - their highest rating in any poll since 2014.

It's not all good news for Labour though. Kantar Public also published a poll on Wednesday with a slightly increased Conservative lead compared to their previous poll. They now have the Conservatives on 43% and Labour on 33%.

Its not the only company which still shows a large gap. In fact, it's more than 10% according to ICM and ComRes.

The main reason for this disparity is the different ways that the pollsters estimate turnout.

Polling companies are sometimes accused of "herding" - manipulating their figures so they all say the same thing. Nobody could accuse them of that at this election. If anything, the differences have become more stark as we approach election day.


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IMO theres not enough undecideds there but most have agreed consistently the torys have 42%+ = majority in first past post

The labour vote swings wildly in polls and i just can't really believe it.


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Prediction:

Tories 350 (thats a big gain btw)
Labour 217
Libs 12
UKIP
Green 2?
SNP 48
Plaid (the welsh idiots ) 3
Ulster unionists of whatever persuasion. 8
Ulster nationalists (in terrorists) 9
Some mad loony. 1 or 2.

Majority = 60 the swings and roundabouts could be +/-10 seats swinging between the two big parties

Really the thing is the rest don't matter that are hard seats largely, perhaps in Scotland a couple her or there but they are predictable

So its either seat to troy or seat to labour. Majoriy today = 17 off 38% of vote. tories IMO have 42% now. so majority increases.


Please note all best are off if there is an atrocity on the polling day.

If i'm wrong I'm glad but I just don't see a move in tory support in polls while the media have hammered this gap closing line too much when in fact its been almost 100% of undecideds going to labour.