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the issue for us is the club cant really comment more until its done

if we announce he is leaving, or sacked etc, before he has signed there, they can probably try to claim no compensation, or indeed he could even claim it for being sacked :D

and its deeply unusual for a club to announce a caretaker manager whilst also employing a manager

ergo it really does need to be announced asap otherwise the limbo for us is ridiculous
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Yeah I don’t get that. When he took the job, he would’ve known the transfer policy. To use that as a reason to go seems like an excuse.

Asking for 4 years as well. I like the bloke, but doesn’t 4 years seem to be a long contract to ask for?
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With comments from previous clubs about AN having a good first year and then getting frustrated maybe it was a deliberate tactic on clubs part. 4 year contract makes it an expensive business to move on if things aren’t right. Isn’t the model that the first team coach is replaceable because they aren’t at the centre of everything in the club.
Jury is out for me until we get a replacement in and they’ve had a few games to settle in. Here’s hoping.
 
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Southern A said:
the issue for us is the club cant really comment more until its done

if we announce he is leaving, or sacked etc, before he has signed there, they can probably try to claim no compensation, or indeed he could even claim it for being sacked :D

and its deeply unusual for a club to announce a caretaker manager whilst also employing a manager

ergo it really does need to be announced asap otherwise the limbo for us is ridiculous
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I sense announcements this evening.
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Yeah I don’t get that. When he took the job, he would’ve known the transfer policy. To use that as a reason to go seems like an excuse.

Asking for 4 years as well. I like the bloke, but doesn’t 4 years seem to be a long contract to ask for?
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We'll never know the full truth. But that sounds like he's leveraging an offer against us to the absolute maximum and we've called his bluff.

If we had given him the 4 years, but not the control over transfers, he'd have been back in the next window or the next time another club showed interest to get control.

The "not backing him in the transfer market" is vague though and can be taken different ways. We've spent money and brought in 7 players with 3/4 still to come. To put that in context, people started talking about how ridiculous it is bringing in so many players when Forest had signed about 13. If it's about numbers, then he shouldn't be kicking off until the window has closed really. It's probably more that we're not as willing to get him the experienced players he wants or maybe players to play in a different way.

I can understand a lot of those frustrations, but again, it's all stuff he should have been aware of up front. Sustainable football and the model would have been agreed upon in his interview.
 
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I get the impression that this has been brewing since our promotion. First half decent championship club who sacks their manager? Offski! Probably a well known secret amongst clubs that he would be available to whoever pulled the trigger first. Hopefully this means that we are more than halfway near to knowing who his replacement is. If we have been totally gazumped and have no ideas, then I'll be worried.
 
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ab65 said:
Sorry mate, I'm maybe being a bit thick here, are you saying that AN will be announced tonight at Stoke or that our new man may be unveiled?
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I know we want Speakman to be quicker this time but I reckon he needs a little more than a few hours :D
 
Confucius said:
As if this ****ing club would have something sorted. Dodds and Proctor for two games minimum
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I can not take that. Honestly. I really can not. I am astounded that Neil even had them around. Proc is a sound lad but lord , he is so out of his depth at that level. And Ken Dodd , even worse.
 
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I dont think we can be blamed for not having a replacement literally ready to go.

We should have a list of course. but for a start most southern based managers wouldn't have been able to drive up yet :D
 
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Prehab26 said:
Mate AN did that. That's it. We were short in the window. The manager carry on. AN transformed us massively. If it wasn't for AN and solely him we would be in league one.
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I just don’t buy into this. AN signed none of the players who helped us to promotion, he’s a cracking manager but clearly wanted more than what he signed up for so for me the blame for this rests with him
 
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CJ9150 said:
I just don’t buy into this. AN signed none of the players who helped us to promotion, he’s a cracking manager but clearly wanted more than what he signed up for so for me the blame for this rests with him
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Strange take mate but you're entitled to it.
 
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CJ9150 said:
‘The process’ has got us promoted, got us a exciting, hard working, talented squad, has taken us from fielding a team with Danny Graham starting up front to a team sat 5th in the championship. Don’t talk rubbish
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The process helped. That's fine.
But the team got promoted by employing an experienced manager who took a pragmatic approach to team selection and tactics. Process does not do that.

The process should never be an end in itself and any business which takes that view will perish.

But the manager is by far the most important man at any club, and here that's not how it looks at all.
 
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rowley said:
The process helped. That's fine.
But the team got promoted by employing an experienced manager who took a pragmatic approach to team selection and tactics. Process does not do that.

The process should never be an end in itself and any business which takes that view will perish.

But the manager is by far the most important man at any club, and here that's not how it looks at all.
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I really dislike the way KS comes across, he is like LJ with the buzzwords and not being able to tweak the strategy when its needed but I do like the way we are going but I do understand why people don’t
 
Nathan Brazil said:
You dont know then?

Very possibly he wanted a higher wage, regardless of the rolling part.

And he might have insisted on the clause, who knows.

And can I just say, this reply would have been unreadable without auto correct, fat fingered friday for me!
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No one knows. But any clause like that could only be a reflection of the rolling nature . " Okay, you don't rate me, I'd like to be able to talk to others if a chance comes"
 
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