Glory pardon?

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Have to say the data that the New York Governor is currently providing is far more informative than what we receive here in the UK.

For example;
Total number in Hospital
Daily Hospital admissions
Daily ICU admissions
Daily Intubations
Daily discharged from Hospital

This information plus much more is provided daily and it not only informs the public but treats us like adults so we can all see where we're heading.

In the UK we're told the absolute minimum which I think is a disgrace.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
When the numbers come down enough, I recon most businesses will re-open, the social distancing will continue, football, concerts,pubs, will stay fan free or closed until there's a vaccine imo.
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Exactly. Just look to where China are now and how they’re handling businesses gradually reopening. Restaurants taking people’s temperatures on entry. Anything out of ordinary means refusal
 
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Eireleeds1 said:
Exactly. Just look to where China are now and how they’re handling businesses gradually reopening. Restaurants taking people’s temperatures on entry. Anything out of ordinary means refusal
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The way China, Hong Kong and South Korea have started to close their borders, it appears they are expecting a 2nd wave imminently.

China's state media have said 2nd wave is inevitable
 
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TC (Lovely Geezer) said:
The way China, Hong Kong and South Korea have started to close their borders, it appears they are expecting a 2nd wave imminently.

China's state media have said 2nd wave is inevitable
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Yeah bound to happen. Difference second time around is they’ll be fully prepared so impact will be far less than first time. This will continue until there is a vaccine available
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
Just because someone has stage 4 terminal cancer, could have lasted 6-12 months without covid 19.The numbers in recovery aren't being counted, as we send them home to self quarentine once they are no longer seriously ill, and Don't seem to have anyone deciding when they are 100% recovered.
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"Just because ...."

In this case, there was no "just because". The patient was expected to last a couple of days, not even a week, hence him being taken into hospital to make him as comfortable as possible. This was an actual case. The virus did not kill him - it never even got a proper hold of him. But you carry on speculating pish when you know nothing about the case.

As for the 'recovered' numbers, you just don't get it, do you? Stuck at 135 for over a week. So how did they come up with that figure in the first place, and why has it stagnated? Every other country seems capable of measuring it.
 
ristac said:
A friend of mines daughter who is in her 30s with 2 kids under 10 has been diagnosed with Ovarian Cancer, the outlook is very poor and she has been fighting to see a specialist for weeks, her weight has gone from 10 stone to 6 stone, they don't want her in the hospital due to the coronavirus, if she catches it then she'll be a statistic of covid19 with underlying conditions when the truth is she should have been operated on by now and have been having treatment to prolong her life... I wonder how many others will sadly pass away in the next few months and years because hospitals are geared up totally towards coronavirus patients and not the rest who need treatment for other conditions? I include in that people who might have had cancers discovered earlier had they been able to get an appointment
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Terrible story. My sister in law has ovarian cancer, prognosis not great and it’s just come back, and has spread. She was ‘lucky’ (though I could do without that sort of luck) in that her op was last month before the virus really got going. But it’s pretty clear if she gets it she’ll be a goner.

my daughters expecting and says she better not need a c section or she’ll be in big trouble.

none of this is much fun. I’ve had more booze this week than I sometimes have in a month.
 
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Eireleeds1 said:
Yes absolutely if no better solution. Lives are far more valuable than money and especially those who worked all their lives an paid their taxes
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Are you saying lives of the elderly are more valuable because they paid taxes?
 
Whitejock said:
"Just because ...."

In this case, there was no "just because". The patient was expected to last a couple of days, not even a week, hence him being taken into hospital to make him as comfortable as possible. This was an actual case. The virus did not kill him - it never even got a proper hold of him. But you carry on speculating pish when you know nothing about the case.

As for the 'recovered' numbers, you just don't get it, do you? Stuck at 135 for over a week. So how did they come up with that figure in the first place, and why has it stagnated? Every other country seems capable of measuring it.
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No I just know my Dad who recently died was stage 4 terminal cancer who took 8 months to die, so go fook yourself expert I was just saying.
And The number has been 135 for a lot longer than a week, people were being kept in Hospital until they recovered, but now due to numbers, they are sending people home who aren't fully recovered because they need the Hospital spaces.
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
No I just know my Dad who recently died was stage 4 terminal cancer who took 8 months to die, so go fook yourself expert I was just saying.
And The number has been 135 for a lot longer than a week, people were being kept in Hospital until they recovered, but now due to numbers, they are sending people home who aren't fully recovered because they need the Hospital spaces.
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Hadn’t realised your dad had passed away recently chesh. Sorry to hear that
 
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lifecheshirewhite said:
No I just know my Dad who recently died was stage 4 terminal cancer who took 8 months to die, so go fook yourself expert I was just saying.
And The number has been 135 for a lot longer than a week, people were being kept in Hospital until they recovered, but now due to numbers, they are sending people home who aren't fully recovered because they need the Hospital spaces.
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Sorry to hear about your dad. Sadly, we're all getting to the age that it's not just our older relatives & friends that are passing, but our mates too. Takes a bit of getting over, so let it out, mate.

I'm no expert, btw. I simply recounted a story I'd read, but perhaps didn't articulate that he was taken in for end of life palliative care.

You could be right about the '135', but other countries are managing to count them just fine. China are up to 76k+, and we're stuck on 135. I have no idea what's going on, but am really quite curious about it.
 
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