Glory pardon?

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Status
Not open for further replies.
Whitejock said:
Sorry to hear about your dad. Sadly, we're all getting to the age that it's not just our older relatives & friends that are passing, but our mates too. Takes a bit of getting over, so let it out, mate.

I'm no expert, btw. I simply recounted a story I'd read, but perhaps didn't articulate that he was taken in for end of life palliative care.

You could be right about the '135', but other countries are managing to count them just fine. China are up to 76k+, and we're stuck on 135. I have no idea what's going on, but am really quite curious about it.
Click to expand...
Problem is every country compile their stats slightly differently. We’re stuck on 5 recovered for past week. Strange variations in figures are we currently have about 110 critical in icu with about 14 dying daily average while you have only 160 critical in icu with close on 600 dying per day. That suggests a huge number dying before they ever get to icu treatment which has to be worrying. Maybe I’m analyzing the figures wrong WJ
 
  • Like
Reactions: Whitejock
Eireleeds1 said:
Problem is every country compile their stats slightly differently. We’re stuck on 5 recovered for past week. Strange variations in figures are we currently have about 110 critical in icu with about 14 dying daily average while you have only 160 critical in icu with close on 600 dying per day. That suggests a huge number dying before they ever get to icu treatment which has to be worrying. Maybe I’m analyzing the figures wrong WJ
Click to expand...
I think it's all over the place, tbh. Pretty sure that people are dying & not being tested. I mean, if you died at home, you certainly wouldn't be sent to ICU, and I'm guessing they wouldn't waste a test on you either, since you're already dead & the test kit are in short supply. At least it's not China! :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eireleeds1 and Irishshako
Whitejock said:
I think it's all over the place, tbh. Pretty sure that people are dying & not being tested. I mean, if you died at home, you certainly wouldn't be sent to ICU, and I'm guessing they wouldn't waste a test on you either, since you're already dead & the test kit are in short supply. At least it's not China! :D
Click to expand...

In the stats, they are including people that died with virus symptoms - so if an 88 year old with a runny nose dies, he or she is included in the stat.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Whitejock
Whitejock said:
I think it's all over the place, tbh. Pretty sure that people are dying & not being tested. I mean, if you died at home, you certainly wouldn't be sent to ICU, and I'm guessing they wouldn't waste a test on you either, since you're already dead & the test kit are in short supply. At least it's not China! :D
Click to expand...
Probably only stats that count are the rate at which deaths are increasing and when they eventually level out. It’s clear they are most if not all corona caused as figures are soaring currently. Just look back to one week ago
 
Very sorry to hear about Chesh's dad passing away.

Think I'm still on ignore but if someone could please pass on the message.

And this...

Chesh, you're a lovely guy and any banter on the forum was just that...nothing more, just a bit of a wind up on my part <sorry>
 
  • Like
Reactions: Irishshako, lifecheshirewhite and Whitejock
Eireleeds1 said:
Problem is every country compile their stats slightly differently. We’re stuck on 5 recovered for past week. Strange variations in figures are we currently have about 110 critical in icu with about 14 dying daily average while you have only 160 critical in icu with close on 600 dying per day. That suggests a huge number dying before they ever get to icu treatment which has to be worrying. Maybe I’m analyzing the figures wrong WJ
Click to expand...
Some have to be taken with a pinch of salt, French have just added 800+ who died in care homes over last few weeks,showed up as 1300+ dead in one day but it isn't.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Eireleeds1
lifecheshirewhite said:
No I just know my Dad who recently died was stage 4 terminal cancer who took 8 months to die, so go fook yourself expert I was just saying.
And The number has been 135 for a lot longer than a week, people were being kept in Hospital until they recovered, but now due to numbers, they are sending people home who aren't fully recovered because they need the Hospital spaces.
Click to expand...
Sorry to hear about your dad mate
 
  • Like
Reactions: lifecheshirewhite
Everyone is getting a bit hung up on stats. There’s a bit of a media fixation with them. They are meaningless. They have no idea how many have it, or have had it. It’s a notifiable disease so it goes down as the cause of death whatever underlying issues may have contributed or caused it. We don’t know how many extra lives it will cost this year, it will only be worked out in retrospect, but we do know it’s ending a lot of them ahead of time and the strain on the NHS has collateral effect for those with other illnesses.

It doesn’t matter how many ...every life lost is a tragedy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Whitejock, Eric Le Merde and Eireleeds1
milkyboy said:
Everyone is getting a bit hung up on stats. There’s a bit of a media fixation with them. They are meaningless. They have no idea how many have it, or have had it. It’s a notifiable disease so it goes down as the cause of death whatever underlying issues may have contributed or caused it. We don’t know how many extra lives it will cost this year, it will only be worked out in retrospect, but we do know it’s ending a lot of them ahead of time and the strain on the NHS has collateral effect for those with other illnesses.

It doesn’t matter how many ...every life lost is a tragedy.
Click to expand...
The news outlets have been really grinding my gears with their repetitive questions. I think this government have been doing a decent job to be honest but someone needs to tell them they’re over doing the word ‘unprecedented’
 
Unprecedented is carefully chosen as it implies no blame can be attached for lack of preparation.

reality is we were ‘overdue’ a pandemic and there have been countless warnings - I say this a-politically as it applies to previous governments also.

truth is you can’t plan for every ‘what if’ - but the testing situation is shambolic
 
milkyboy said:
Unprecedented is carefully chosen as it implies no blame can be attached for lack of preparation.

reality is we were ‘overdue’ a pandemic and there have been countless warnings - I say this a-politically as it applies to previous governments also.

truth is you can’t plan for every ‘what if’ - but the testing situation is shambolic
Click to expand...

Government absolutely knew it was coming once it hit Italy & Spain & no doubting original policy was to let it spread to create 'herd immunity' before changing tack.
 
Leedsoflondon said:
Government absolutely knew it was coming once it hit Italy & Spain & no doubting original policy was to let it spread to create 'herd immunity' before changing tack.
Click to expand...

Absolutely... made a similar point earlier on the corona thread. My point here was about general long term planning in the event of any pandemic, not reacting to one when it happens.
 
milkyboy said:
Absolutely... made a similar point earlier on the corona thread. My point here was about general long term planning in the event of any pandemic, not reacting to one when it happens.
Click to expand...

Sorry, haven’t been on the other thread. Normally stay clear of politics but your point is well made. Still think measures could have been planned for once it became clear it would hit the UK.
 
The governor of NY was saying how all the PPE stuff comes from China and they just couldn't get hold if it when needed.

He also made the point of how idiotic this is and that countries would have to change in the future.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Irishshako
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom
Back