Gerry Adams arrested

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It was his brother wasn't it? Remember it at the time, Record Breakers was transmitted as normal, we shall not be beaten.


Aye,Roy Castle got cancer but great trumpet player and think he was a actor in Hammer movies,touch of death anyone involved with the Guinness Book of Records.I'm sticking with Wisden Cricketers' Almanack,pour the Pimms!
 
OOh so this http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/08/david-cameron-hosts-dup-mps-in-lavish-downing-street-reception and the arrest of Gerry happen at the same time, how convenient.

Also the prods, in their gleeful gloating of this affair, conveniently forget that the fact she was living in Divis was as a result of her being chased out of her own area for marrying a taig.

Also all condemnation regarding treatment of informers has always been levelled on the republican side. No blame ever seems to be cast the way of Special Branch/MI5 for their blackmail "recruitment" of informers. How the IRA dealt with informers was never any big secret, no sane person would willingly become an informer. The vast majority of informers were almost forced into this position by Special Branch, usually by means of character destroying "dirt" on the personal (both real and fabricated). How come noone ever condemns the British side of things for forcing people into a situation of almost mortal danger.
 
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/a...crime-by-any-standards-anywhere-26203907.html

The lying and persecution of the family began almost immediately after her abduction and murder. The local republicans daubed "soldier lover" on the family door and then spread a rumour - and actually told the hungry, lonely children that their mother had abandoned them and run off with a British soldier.


Not a single person on the Falls Road believed the fabrication. Everyone knew the IRA was engaged in a campaign of isolating and ostracising anyone who showed sympathy to the British army. In the couple of months before Jean McConville's disappearance, at least 14 women were taken from their homes and beaten. Some had their heads shaved, some were tied to lamp posts and tarred and feathered. Mrs McConville, republican sources now say, was murdered not only because she was suspected of having shown some kindness to an injured soldier but also because she was a Protestant who married a Catholic and moved to the Falls Road.

<laugh> bullshit, "not a single person" <laugh> thats some assertion to make.

Anyone I know, for lack of a better term, active on the ground at the time, are absolutely sure of the fact she was. She was caught with a transmitter once and warned, and caught with one a second time and that was it. The fact she was a protestant had no bearing on it as she had lived there with no issues for a significant period previous. The whole story about her tending to a dying soldier is also a fabrication according a good few. A good story for maximum provo PR damage
 
bullshit, "not a single person" thats some assertion to make.

Anyone I know, for lack of a better term, active on the ground at the time, are absolutely sure of the fact she was. She was caught with a transmitter once and warned, and caught with one a second time and that was it. The fact she was a protestant had no bearing on it as she had lived there with no issues for a significant period previous. The whole story about her tending to a dying soldier is also a fabrication according a good few. A good story for maximum provo PR damage

I asked Ciaran but you seem keen Jacky so go, tell us all what information she was giving the Army/RUC <doh>

And Jacky here's a tip, try actually reading what's been said before committing, "Not a single person" believed the fantasy/myth/blatant lie that she'd run off with a soldier <ok>
 
OOh so this http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ts-dup-mps-in-lavish-downing-street-reception and the arrest of Gerry happen at the same time, how convenient.

Also the prods, in their gleeful gloating of this affair, conveniently forget that the fact she was living in Divis was as a result of her being chased out of her own area for marrying a taig.

Also all condemnation regarding treatment of informers has always been levelled on the republican side. No blame ever seems to be cast the way of Special Branch/MI5 for their blackmail "recruitment" of informers. How the IRA dealt with informers was never any big secret, no sane person would willingly become an informer. The vast majority of informers were almost forced into this position by Special Branch, usually by means of character destroying "dirt" on the personal (both real and fabricated). How come noone ever condemns the British side of things for forcing people into a situation of almost mortal danger.

Aye, Ciaran covered that and it's still utter ****e. Not the IRA's fault in other words <doh>
 
She was a tout and got her ****ing dues. End of story. She had been warned once which was more than most.

She had been supplying the British with details of the movement s of Republican s. **** knows how many were killed or jailed due to her information.

She shouldn't have been secretly buried though, no one should have been.

Even that **** Nairac, although he made a lovely burger.
 
She was a tout and got her ****ing dues. End of story. She had been warned once which was more than most.

She had been supplying the British with details of the movement s of Republican s. **** knows how many were killed or jailed due to her information.

She shouldn't have been secretly buried though, no one should have been.

Even that **** Nairac, although he made a lovely burger.

The movement of republicans? What like the Underground Railroad during the Civil War in the US? <laugh>
 
Aye, according to Ciaran here the IRA were so ****ing dumb that widow women living in a ****pile knew about the IRA plans.

No wonder they gave up.

<laugh>

So he's either a blatant liar or admitting his heroes are bumbling incompetents on a Keystone Cops level of ineptitude. Which one is it?
 
Aye, according to Ciaran here the IRA were so f**king dumb that widow women living in a ****pile knew about the IRA plans.

No wonder they gave up.

Who said anything about "IRA plans" dev. You really can be a facetious arsehole at times. Like Ciaran said "IRA movements", aka where known people of interest were. Where the hell do you think the IRA had their meetings? Do you think they booked out a conference room in the Ritz to have their board meeting?

The IRA, like any underground movement, would have met in the most bland unremarkable places, like Divis flats. Passing on real-time (hence the transmittor) information about "movements" would be identifying if known suspects were there, if who they were meeting with in the hope of creating connections to other suspects, and identifying new persons of interest etc.

You know exactly what Ciaran was on about so stop with the flippant attempts at ridicule
 
Aye, Ciaran covered that and it's still utter ****e. Not the IRA's fault in other words <doh>

Who said "its not the IRAs fault"? Im saying for an official agency to blackmail someone into doing something against their will knowing the risk to their life such an act would pose is scandalous at best and state criminality at worst. It something that should get more of a mention in cases such as these. But sure ,wasnt that the only way the Brits were able to keep their empire for so long, informers and covert dirty wars