Well that's something of a relief ... hopefully more of the kids get some proper playing time now ...
Oh yeah and Ipswitch gone too....not mathematically, but have to win every game and West Ham lose every one and make up a GD of 20.
Best of the 3 but still rubbish, cant think of a worse bottom 3 ever.
Can't remember that well, but weren't the bottom 3 last season crap as well?
Sheffield Utd and Burnley yeah, Luton weren't as bad but clearly not good enough. Dunno whether this 3 is worse than last year, but in the last 2 years it's been the 3 promoted teams straight back down, and way below Prem standard quality, which doesn't set a good precedence.

Can't remember that well, but weren't the bottom 3 last season crap as well?
Saw some claiming that the quality of the prem wasn't dissimilar to what you find in the championship think it was on the mackem board
Delusional.
Its a massive difference.
The season before that all 3 teams stayed up.Sheffield Utd and Burnley yeah, Luton weren't as bad but clearly not good enough. Dunno whether this 3 is worse than last year, but in the last 2 years it's been the 3 promoted teams straight back down, and way below Prem standard quality, which doesn't set a good precedence.
The season before that all 3 teams stayed up.
The gap is widening every season, though. Any club that comes up needs to spend big and spend it well just to give them a decent chance at fighting against relegation.
If/when Sunderland go up we might have to almost accept relegation to get the parachute payments to build again for a better shot at it next time.
FFP isn't really a problem for newly promoted teams as it can only be a problem after 3 years .This is where FFP is Bullshit tbh, unless promoted teams are allowed to spend serious money (and yes have owners secure the money in a manner that will ensure the club won't be bankrupted) then this isn't going to change.
Securing the money in a manner that the club doesn't go bankrupt is the key currently those assurances are not in place.This is where FFP is Bullshit tbh, unless promoted teams are allowed to spend serious money (and yes have owners secure the money in a manner that will ensure the club won't be bankrupted) then this isn't going to change.
If/when Sunderland go up we might have to almost accept relegation to get the parachute payments to build again for a better shot at it next time.
FFP isn't really a problem for newly promoted teams as it can only be a problem after 3 years .
Finacial reality on the hand .....
Securing the money in a manner that the club doesn't go bankrupt is the key currently those assurances are not in place.
I hate talking about it because football seems more about this crap than anything else nowadays but stop your FFP bleating and accept that your owners having money isn't good enough.Always said this. If they really wanted to protect the clubs that's what they'd do.
It wouldn't exactly be difficult. The fact they haven't says everything about the intention of the rules.
The season before that all 3 teams stayed up.
The gap is widening every season, though. Any club that comes up needs to spend big and spend it well just to give them a decent chance at fighting against relegation.
If/when Sunderland go up we might have to almost accept relegation to get the parachute payments to build again for a better shot at it next time.
I hate taking about it because football seems more about this crap than anything else nowadays but stop your FFP bleating and accept that your owners having money isn't good enough.
But is that an option now? Ie Soton and Leicester both went down 2 years ago and were appalling that season, but having come back up they're much, much worse. Will be the same if Sheffield Utd go back up. Ie can you even build to go back up and expect to stay there?
The gap between Prem and Championship seems to be growing ridiculously right now.
I hate taking about it because football seems more about this crap than anything else nowadays but stop your FFP bleating and accept that your owners having money isn't good enough.
Yeah it is what it is init and 14 clubs at the time voted it in so the required majority wanted it.
I just find it annoying that people still believe it's there to prevent clubs getting in financial trouble as it quite clearly doesn't.
Absolutely... I appreciate that clubs below the Championship might need some financial safeguarding ... but in terms of the top two divisions it's complete and utter bollocks ...