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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Well that's something of a relief ... hopefully more of the kids get some proper playing time now ...
     
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  2. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Can't remember that well, but weren't the bottom 3 last season crap as well?
     
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  3. Charlie Dogscock

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    Sheffield Utd and Burnley yeah, Luton weren't as bad but clearly not good enough. Dunno whether this 3 is worse than last year, but in the last 2 years it's been the 3 promoted teams straight back down, and way below Prem standard quality, which doesn't set a good precedence.
     
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  4. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Saw some claiming that the quality of the prem wasn't dissimilar to what you find in the championship think it was on the mackem board <laugh>

    Delusional.

    Its a massive difference.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah last year was the lowest combined points total ever but this season will beat it.
     
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  6. brb

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    I think the Premier League has been awful this season. I've much prefered the Championship games, even some of the lower league games were better than the dross served up by the Prem. Poorest title win in a very long time, absolute decades. Even Carlisle United would have made better opposition than Leicester City today, and Liverpool still only scored one, against a team that has conceded 73 goals this season. As for Arsenal, so predictable, superglued as runners up again, but Arteta still hasn't sussed you don't get a pot for that. At least Man United and Spurs are still in Europe, good job someone is flying the flag for the English sides. What's that about Arsenal...
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    The season before that all 3 teams stayed up.

    The gap is widening every season, though. Any club that comes up needs to spend big and spend it well just to give them a decent chance at fighting against relegation.

    If/when Sunderland go up we might have to almost accept relegation to get the parachute payments to build again for a better shot at it next time.
     
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  8. haslam

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    This is where FFP is Bullshit tbh, unless promoted teams are allowed to spend serious money (and yes have owners secure the money in a manner that will ensure the club won't be bankrupted) then this isn't going to change.
     
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    FFP isn't really a problem for newly promoted teams as it can only be a problem after 3 years .
    Finacial reality on the hand .....
     
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  10. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Securing the money in a manner that the club doesn't go bankrupt is the key currently those assurances are not in place.
     
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  11. Charlie Dogscock

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    But is that an option now? Ie Soton and Leicester both went down 2 years ago and were appalling that season, but having come back up they're much, much worse. Will be the same if Sheffield Utd go back up. Ie can you even build to go back up and expect to stay there?

    The gap between Prem and Championship seems to be growing ridiculously right now.
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    You're still bound by the 3 year cycle but the amount you can lose is lower. £15m per season rather than £35m

    So when Forest failed for example their limit was £65m rather than £105m.
     
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  13. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Always said this. If they really wanted to protect the clubs that's what they'd do.

    It wouldn't exactly be difficult. The fact they haven't says everything about the intention of the rules.
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I hate talking about it because football seems more about this crap than anything else nowadays but stop your FFP bleating and accept that your owners having money isn't good enough.
     
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  15. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    ... spend big ... and also avoid the farce that is PSR / FFP ... principle purpose to keep the upstarts in their place ...
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah it is what it is init and 14 clubs at the time voted it in so the required majority wanted it.

    I just find it annoying that people still believe it's there to prevent clubs getting in financial trouble as it quite clearly doesn't.
     
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  17. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    The gap between the top of the championship and the rest is just as big an issue tbh.

    Maybe we've reached a point where we should just bin off promotion and relegation between the PL and EFL.

    Stick with next year's 20 clubs, promise to never introduce VAR to the EFL and make the league cup for the EFL only.

    Job done :bandit:
     
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  18. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Certainly isn't if they're not allowed to spend it ... Chelsea would likely have remained in the yo-yo boys club with the likes of us, Sunderland, West Brom etc without Abramovic's money ... Citeh likewise -

    Would it have been better for our game if they hadn't obtained the abilty to compete? (I.e owners with bottomless pockets) and United and Arsenal continued to be the only clubs with a realistic chance of the Prem each season?

    Not for me - that would have been boring as ****.

    The whole PSR / FFP thing needs re-thinking - 'parental guarantees' from mega rich owners to ensure that all 'creditors' get paid should they ever decide to exit ... then let the ****ers spend what they want so we give as many teams as possible the 'potential' to win the major trophies each season ...
     
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  19. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    Absolutely... I appreciate that clubs below the Championship might need some financial safeguarding ... but in terms of the top two divisions it's complete and utter bollocks ...
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Clubs need financial safeguarding for sure at all levels imo. The current setup doesn't do that though.
     
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