I feel obliged to butt into this fascinating convo with the fairly obvious point that excellent european teams aren't in the European Conference League .
Rennes currently third in France, PSV currently second (and in title race with Ajax) in The Netherlands.. . Feyenord are in the other semi and are third in the Dutch league and Roma who we play in the semi are currently fifth in Italy ... you seem to be referencing how clubs did in the previous season rather than where they are now ... Roy is all about "current" mate ... last season apparently has no relevance ... so we have made it to a stage with next season's CL participators ... so thanks for your contribution, you've just obliterated "Munse's logic" ... which is itself an oxymoron ... so thanks

