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gooner4ever said:
Arteta is the long term answer for us and he has already won the FA Cup.
Jose is never a long term answer, and he will be off soon enough as that’s what he does, it’s the state he will leave Spurs in that you need to worry about, and who you will get in to replace Kane and Son as they surely will move to a big club.
Harry could return to his boyhood club as we need a back up for Lacasette :)
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If you fail to finish above us then Arteta is not any kind of answer.
Yes he won the FA cup but Ramos won us a cup beating a top 4 team in the semi final and the League and CL runners up in the final but he was not a long term solution.
We are awful ... any team with ambitions of finishing in the top 4 next season should not finish behind dross like us tbh.
 
remembercolinlee said:
I don't boo at matches, the only manager I have turned on was AVB but I absolutely think he should be sacked... tonight!
We are inept in all aspects of the game... and have been for weeks.
The performances v Palace, Wolves, Leicester, Fulham, Liverpool and Brighton have been the worst performances I have seen since AVB in 2014. No one on the boards or my mates I was texting or my daughters thought we'd score tonight.

If we can see it why can't the special one?
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I think you're forgetting a lot of the dross Poch served up towards the end to be honest. The Colchester loss was probably the worst I've ever seen, from any manager.

But I agree, Jose's stuff is pony right now.

He won't be sacked tonight though, nor in a week or two I'd imagine. Besides with just one day left of the window, a new manager wouldn't likely be able to do much with this squad for the remainder of the season. He may able to improve the style of football and maybe get one or two better results here and there but a new manager needs at least about 5-6 signings of their own to start implementing their own ways. That's where Jose's ****ed it, he's gotten 9 of his own players and all he's primarily done is just add to the dross we've already got. So unless we sacked Jose, hired a new guy tonight, they signed 1 or 2 tomorrow and then promoted some of the youth, I doubt much can be done.
 
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PINKIE said:
He's already improved us. I know we had a ****ing ****ty start to this season, but already the mentality is better in the whole squad. Gonna take Arteta 2/3 transfer windows to build the squad he wants though. It's early days for him, but I think he's got what it takes and he's already got a pot under his belt.
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Depends what you mean by improved. I don't see anything sustained atm. And it does really depend what your long term ambitions are. Top 4 possibly? And I say possibly mainly because of the level of competition for those spots when you consider at least 2 will be filled by the likes of City and Liverpool and about 3 other than Arsenal who'll be there competing for it and who all look ahead of you for the foreseeable future. And if we're talking about challenging for the league, I can't see it being with Arteta tbh.
 
Dier Hard said:
He was never one of our best prospects to be honest mate. Could probably do a job in League One or Two right now with the aim of improving over time to higher levels. Decent enough winger though.
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Thanks fo the info
I guess our recruiting scouts saw some potential
Sometime a change of club at his age can make or break a player, fingers crossed
 
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Dier Hard said:
I think you're forgetting a lot of the dross Poch served up towards the end to be honest. The Colchester loss was probably the worst I've ever seen, from any manager.

But I agree, Jose's stuff is pony right now.

He won't be sacked tonight though, nor in a week or two I'd imagine. Besides with just one day left of the window, a new manager wouldn't likely be able to do much with this squad for the remainder of the season. He may able to improve the style of football and maybe get one or two better results here and there but a new manager needs at least about 5-6 signings of their own to start implementing their own ways. That's where Jose's ****ed it, he's gotten 9 of his own players and all he's primarily done is just add to the dross we've already got. So unless we sacked Jose, hired a new guy tonight, they signed 1 or 2 tomorrow and then promoted some of the youth, I doubt much can be done.
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I remember how poor we were in the last 3 months of Pochettino's reign.
I thought we should have given him the rest of the season but accepted things had been poor in the league for 8 months or so before his sacking.

JM's reign has been abysmal in terms of management and performances.

From Xmas 2019 til lockdown was appalling. The only decent game I saw was spurs v Southampton in the Cup (a 3-2 win) and the win over City.
His management of the Norwich cup tie (chosing Vorm to play even though he hadn't played in over 18 months) cost us.

We played well v United, Arsenal and Leicester after lockdown but our games v Bournemouth, Everton, Sheffield United and Palace were appalling.

In truth I can remember about good performances in about a dozen games and that's pretty ****e to be honest.

Sometimes a good 90 mins...United x2* City x2* Arsenal x2* Leeds, Sheffield United, Burnley Liverpool*...that's 11 matches.

Mostly we get a good half and a piss poor half.
West Ham* Bournemouth* Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Palace, Wolves, Fulham, Brighton, Liverpool.
That's 10 games.

Sometimes we are just ****...Liverpool, Brighton, Bournemouth*, Everton x2*, Sheffield United*, Palace, Watford*, Norwich*, West Brom, Burnley x2*, Southampton*, wolves*, Chelsea x2*, Leicester, Manchester United*

That's 18 out of 46 league games.
(* = last season)

There's 7 other games that I don't recall so in total
46 games 74 points =63 points per season

No so special tbf
 
remembercolinlee said:
I remember how poor we were in the last 3 months of Pochettino's reign.
I thought we should have given him the rest of the season but accepted things had been poor in the league for 8 months or so before his sacking.

JM's reign has been abysmal in terms of management and performances.

From Xmas 2019 til lockdown was appalling. The only decent game I saw was spurs v Southampton in the Cup (a 3-2 win) and the win over City.
His management of the Norwich cup tie (chosing Vorm to play even though he hadn't played in over 18 months) cost us.

We played well v United, Arsenal and Leicester after lockdown but our games v Bournemouth, Everton, Sheffield United and Palace were appalling.

In truth I can remember about good performances in about a dozen games and that's pretty ****e to be honest.

Sometimes a good 90 mins...United x2* City x2* Arsenal x2* Leeds, Sheffield United, Burnley Liverpool*...that's 11 matches.

Mostly we get a good half and a piss poor half.
West Ham* Bournemouth* Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Palace, Wolves, Fulham, Brighton, Liverpool.
That's 10 games.

Sometimes we are just ****...Liverpool, Brighton, Bournemouth*, Everton x2*, Sheffield United*, Palace, Watford*, Norwich*, West Brom, Burnley x2*, Southampton*, wolves*, Chelsea x2*, Leicester, Manchester United*

That's 18 out of 46 league games.
(* = last season)

There's 7 other games that I don't recall so in total
46 games 74 points =63 points per season

No so special tbf
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Longer than 3 months mate. We were gash right at the start of 2019 under Poch. It was only the CL games against City and Moura’s 45 mins against Ajax that were worth talking about. Carried the form into the start of the 19/20 season and then he got sacked for it.

I agree with the rest RE Jose, it’s pretty clear now that it ain’t gonna work out with him but he’s far too expensive to sack right now. Just wish we could sack some of the players as well, ****ing hate so many of them.
 
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@Tobes gueye unsurprisingly didn't fancy a relegation scrap and told us to **** off, but I think Chelsea and Everton are both in for him
 
Spurlock said:
But you don’t think it’s important to try to build a culture of winning things at a club you’re one of them fans who’s happy so long as you can have a chat about it and make a day of it kinda guy...so we at different starting points

Fans who want to win a trophy aren’t just chasing the league cup...they hope its the start of a good habit. You won your last major trophy in 1973 or sumt...so you’ve done what I’ve seen many Spurs fans do over the years and taught themselves that winning trophies isn’t important it’s about having a good Roy of the rovers day out but actually winning trophies is the end game, not a nice bonus. For me, 12 years without a trophy, 30 years without an FA Cup, 36 years without a euro trophy and 60 years without winning the league is dogshit and embarrassing considering our infrastructure.
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So we all agree Spurs are dogshit then?

See, we found some common ground <ok>
 
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Spurlock said:
But you don’t think it’s important to try to build a culture of winning things at a club you’re one of them fans who’s happy so long as you can have a chat about it and make a day of it kinda guy...so we at different starting points

Fans who want to win a trophy aren’t just chasing the league cup...they hope its the start of a good habit. You won your last major trophy in 1973 or sumt...so you’ve done what I’ve seen many Spurs fans do over the years and taught themselves that winning trophies isn’t important it’s about having a good Roy of the rovers day out but actually winning trophies is the end game, not a nice bonus. For me, 12 years without a trophy, 30 years without an FA Cup, 36 years without a euro trophy and 60 years without winning the league is dogshit and embarrassing considering our infrastructure.
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Kin 'ell lads. It's like a Spurs counselling session in here <rofl>

Listen, this doesn't need a forensic psychological breakdown.

It's Spurs, and they are [HASHTAG]#spursy[/HASHTAG]
 
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