Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

[PleaseNotPoll]

If you'd read my comment properly instead of swinging your handbag around, then you would have seen that I said it was a pen, but Alli still threw himself to the ground theatrically, and raised the question again about his incessant diving antics.

Instead you went off on one posting videos about Emmanuel ****ing Eboue

You mean the thing that I already said? Now this is a deflection.

Arsenal players dive every week and there's not a sniff of criticism from you.
Your own manager has endorsed it for years by smugly smiling and claiming that he didn't see it.
Pochettino claimed that it's part of the game and was roundly criticised by Spurs fans, as is Alli.
You lot endorse it generally, ignore any specific cases and try to claim the high ground. It's embarrassing.

 

[PINKIE]

Didn't you mo fos make him

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on the pitch once?

Yeah, utter ****ers. He got dogs abuse from some Arsenal fans. ****ing unforgivable really, I would never boo my own player and shame on the ****s that do.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Not upset, just making my assumptions based on the evidence I have to work with. I like everybody, what you choose to be and do in your own home is none of my business.

And what you choose to do in a public toilet is none of mine. You do seem rather bitter about it, though.

 

[PINKIE]

You mean the thing that I already said? Now this is a deflection.

Arsenal players dive every week and there's not a sniff of criticism from you.
Your own manager has endorsed it for years by smugly smiling and claiming that he didn't see it.
Pochettino claimed that it's part of the game and was roundly criticised by Spurs fans, as is Alli.
You lot endorse it generally, ignore any specific cases and try to claim the high ground. It's embarrassing.

You're just making yourself look silly now.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Yeah, utter ****ers. He got dogs abuse from some Arsenal fans. ****ing unforgivable really, I would never boo my own player and shame on the ****s that do.

I've never done it, but I can see occasional cases when it might be warranted. Would have to be really bad, though.
I don't get it when fans slag off **** players at matches. If they're **** and they're still playing, then that's on the manager.

 

[PINKIE]

This one seems a real ****y *****.

I bet he loves a petition.

Easily rattled, but demonstrates that he isn't by posting 9 pages of video rants

 

[Tel (they/them)]

And what you choose to do in a public toilet is none of mine. You do seem rather bitter about it, though.

Again, not bitter. Apologies for offending you.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

You're just making yourself look silly now.

You just ran away from that completely!

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Again, not bitter. Apologies for offending you.

You didn't offend me at all. Whatever you choose to do with consenting adults is completely up to you.

 

[Libby]

forgot you were a saint fan...can we have our song back please?

Can we have our manager back please?

We've got another MP you can have in return

 

[PINKIE]

I've never done it, but I can see occasional cases when it might be warranted. Would have to be really bad, though.
I don't get it when fans slag off **** players at matches. If they're **** and they're still playing, then that's on the manager.

I can understand fans getting frustrated, but Eboue got so much abuse from a section of our fans that was totally unwarranted. I hate to say it but there's a nasty streak with some Arsenal fans that single out and scapegoat certain players, not sure if it happens at other clubs, but it makes my ****ing blood boil seeing our own fans giving our players ****.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

Easily rattled, but demonstrates that he isn't by posting 9 pages of video rants

He's been batting off responses for about 3 hours now non-stop.

I've been out and got food in that time, he's still here

 

[PINKIE]

You just ran away from that completely!

You were so wide of the mark I thought I'd save you the embarrassment

 

[PINKIE]

There's a case to argue though that it's their attitude that makes them great players.

They have a fire in them that not many players have and in Alli's instance, he's a cocky and sly **** but that confidence/ arrogance is what allows him to do some special stuff on the pitch.

While I'd love for him to cut out the diving, I'd never really want him to change much else because his personality is partly what allows him to be such a good player.

Yep agree with this too. There's a fine line, and you don't want to kill the very thing that gives them that edge in the first place.

 

[The Ginger Marks]

He's been batting off responses for about 3 hours now non-stop.

I've been out and got food in that time, he's still here

 

[remembercolinlee]

There's a case to argue though that it's their attitude that makes them great players.

They have a fire in them that not many players have and in Alli's instance, he's a cocky and sly **** but that confidence/ arrogance is what allows him to do some special stuff on the pitch.

While I'd love for him to cut out the diving, I'd never really want him to change much else because his personality is partly what allows him to be such a good player.

agreed ... but imo both go over the edge...bit like George Best, Gazza etc...both would have been way better had they learned to control their flaws.
Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs are a good comparison......both were very arrogant and cocky but one controlled it on the pitch but one didn't and it's clear who is who.
The game is littered with players who were arses but focused on the pitch and controlled themselves (Terry, Cole) and others whole did not (Merson, Kanchelski).

Dele needs to focus ... if he does he will go down in history ... if he doesn't he could risk being another case of "if only". Same is True of Whilshere who finally appears to be trying to control himself.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

You didn't offend me at all. Whatever you choose to do with consenting adults is completely up to you.

You're definitely offended, you're obsessed with regurgitating what I'm writing. Just calm down and we can move on and forget you ever went full *****.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I can understand fans getting frustrated, but Eboue got so much abuse from a section of our fans that was totally unwarranted. I hate to say it but there's a nasty streak with some Arsenal fans that single out and scapegoat certain players, not sure if it happens at other clubs, but it makes my ****ing blood boil seeing our own fans giving our players ****.

I think that there's a minority at every club that find a scapegoat every year and go after them.
Sissoko's our current one and, while I think it's clear that he's not up to standard, he's trying hard and largely doing ok.
I wouldn't shed any tears if we replaced him, but it's not his fault that he's not up to the job.
That's on our manager, scouts and chairman.

 

[The Ginger Marks]

agreed ... but imo both go over the edge...bit like George Best, Gazza etc...both would have been way better had they learned to control their flaws.
Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs are a good comparison......both were very arrogant and cocky but one controlled it on the pitch but one didn't and it's clear who is who.
The game is littered with players who were arses but focused on the pitch and controlled themselves (Terry, Cole) and others whole did not (Merson, Kanchelski).

Dele needs to focus ... if he does he will go down in history ... if he doesn't he could risk being another case of "if only". Same is True of Whilshere who finally appears to be trying to control himself.

Down in history as a cheat like?

 

[PINKIE]

agreed ... but imo both go over the edge...bit like George Best, Gazza etc...both would have been way better had they learned to control their flaws.
Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs are a good comparison......both were very arrogant and cocky but one controlled it on the pitch but one didn't and it's clear who is who.
The game is littered with players who were arses but focused on the pitch and controlled themselves (Terry, Cole) and others whole did not (Merson, Kanchelski).

Dele needs to focus ... if he does he will go down in history ... if he doesn't he could risk being another case of "if only". Same is True of Whilshere who finally appears to be trying to control himself.

Wilshere has been loads better since he's come back for Arsenal. I think his injuries and time spent on loan have finally made him realise that he needs to get his head down and work hard if he's going to make it. Ability alone and being cocky aren't going to cut it.