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[The Changing Man]

Do you remember when Pedro Mendes "scored" against Man U in 2005, the ball was way over the line but it wasn't given. I mean, you agree it was actually over the line, right? I mean, there's glass half full and then there's not recognising the concept of a glass.

It was a goal for sure and fortunately goal line technology now exists so this should never happen again, but it was a freak occurrence referee and linesman were correctly placed and I challenge anyone to be able to tell from pitch level that the ball was over the line the only person who might have known was the United keeper, much as some people blame Clattenburg this wasn't really his error.

 

[Left on the Shelf]

Key take-aways for me from yesterday?
Tel must start over Muani.
Palhinha must start over Bissouma.
Kinsky must stay as No1.

We aren't down yet, but less than 4 points from the next two games will likely mean the last weekend is irrelevant.

 

[Spurf]

Love how a few posters on a football forum genuinely believe they know more about the rules and laws of football than every official and ex pro.

They’ve got themselves convinced there is an industry wide conspiracy to relegate Spurs

Your comment about officials and ex pros only holds up if they all agree on every incident which of course they don't. There would be no need for VAR if your comment was correct.

You then conflate that comment and suggest that that is used to support conspiracy. That is a different issue that is as old as football itself. You can hear that belief at almost every match when the watching fans disagree with an on pitch decision by the ref. It's how humans work.

 

[SpursDisciple]

I still think we’re ****ed but De Zerbi’s at least managed to instil a bit of fight amongst this bunch, unlike Frank and Tugor.

Sell everyone in the summer but keep the gaffer I say.

If he wants to stay. I'll bet he has a break clause for relegation. I wonder if many players do though, was probably unthinkable when most signed

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

Special mention goes to the Wolves fans cheering as Xavi was being stretchered off

...which, somehow, is being used as "evidence" for the retractable pitch theory in spite happening on the Molineux pitch

 

[Tilly'sowner]

Special mention goes to the Wolves fans cheering as Xavi was being stretchered off

...which, somehow, is being used as "evidence" for the retractable pitch theory in spite happening on the Molineux pitch

The argument around the injuries could be valid if the training pitches are built to the same specifications to the retractable pitch, although minus the retractable element.

It’s entirely feasible that there is a design flaw somewhere in our pitches but not specifically the retractable machinery but perhaps specific designs of the type of grass and soil used to accommodate the retractable machinery.

I’m pretty sure the training pitches will use the same type of grass, soil etc as our main pitch. There could be an argument that the pitches are simply too firm these days which is causing injuries everywhere.

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

The argument around the injuries could be valid if the training pitches are built to the same specifications to the retractable pitch, although minus the retractable element.

It’s entirely feasible that there is a design flaw somewhere in our pitches but not specifically the retractable machinery but perhaps specific designs of the type of grass and soil used to accommodate the retractable machinery.

I’m pretty sure the training pitches will use the same type of grass, soil etc as our main pitch. There could be an argument that the pitches are simply too firm these days which is causing injuries everywhere.

It does have to be said Los Ladrones do have the same surface for both stadium and training pitch, and they have injuries

However, there's several factors which aren't the same with us
i.) They have a hybrid pitch, we don't
ii.) Several of the players going down have a history of knee issues
iii.) Most of the players going down are 32+ years old

 

[Spurlock]

Not for me tbh. Not consistent enough. Not sure he’d make our strongest XI when everyone is fit too and I doubt he’s the type who’d wanna play backup, it’s largely why he left the top the clubs to chase regular football.

I think the way we do business and the status of our club on the field and what we have become since 2019 can't be ignored when it comes to evaluating the quality of our purchases.

Simons profile is similar to ours as a club... definitely not top tier... can't see us attracting much better as things currently stand.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Key take-aways for me from yesterday?
Tel must start over Muani.
Palhinha must start over Bissouma.
Kinsky must stay as No1.

We aren't down yet, but less than 4 points from the next two games will likely mean the last weekend is irrelevant.

Agreed.

De Zerbi has an annoying fixation on Muani and Bissouma because he wanted to sign the former at Marseille, and managed the latter at Brighton.

 

[Spurf]

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Bit insulting to use subtitles for Palhinha, whose English is excellent.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

It's lamentable that we've spent £230m on attacking players in recent years, but three of our top five goal scorers this season are Micky, Romero and Palhinha.

To go from Kane and Son to this mess is astonishing.

 

[Tilly'sowner]

It does have to be said Los Ladrones do have the same surface for both stadium and training pitch, and they have injuries

However, there's several factors which aren't the same with us
i.) They have a hybrid pitch, we don't
ii.) Several of the players going down have a history of knee issues
iii.) Most of the players going down are 32+ years old

Looks like we do use a hybrid pitch:

Tottenham equipped with PlayMaster hybrid turf system — Tarkett Group

Tarkett Sports has installed its leading PlayMaster hybrid turf system at London’s iconic Tottenham Hotspur football stadium.

www.tarkett-group.com

Along with 80% of PL teams.

 

[BrunelGunner]

It's lamentable that we've spent £230m on attacking players in recent years, but three of our top five goal scorers this season are Micky, Romero and Palhinha.

To go from Kane and Son to this mess is astonishing.

Look on the bright side - at least you don't need to watch Gyokeres, Madueke and Martinelli every week. Probably amongst three of the worst forwards in the entire division. Silver linings etc.

 

[PowerSpurs]

It's lamentable that we've spent £230m on attacking players in recent years, but three of our top five goal scorers this season are Micky, Romero and Palhinha.

To go from Kane and Son to this mess is astonishing.

I would say inevitable. There are no players we could possibly sign who are close to being as good as Son and Kane. Haaland and Salah are the only forwards in the PL who even come close.

 

[Dier Hard]

I think the way we do business and the status of our club on the field and what we have become since 2019 can't be ignored when it comes to evaluating the quality of our purchases.

Simons profile is similar to ours as a club... definitely not top tier... can't see us attracting much better as things currently stand.

Completely agree profile wise he was actually a good signing, that’s why even though I was against it in the summer, I respected the fact that on paper he was a high profile addition.

But I just think in terms of suitability for the Prem, he’s one of those players that needs an extra second or two on the ball to be able to be good, I think that’s why he hit crazy numbers in Germany and Holland but has just 7 goal contributions in the league here. He’ll have a few good games a season but in general I think he’ll continue like he’s done for most of this and struggle to make regular impacts. A lot of people said Madders was poor/ below par last season but still managed 16 goal contributions in the league. If both are fit and fighting for that number 10 spot, I’m picking Madders all day long, problem is we never know when he’ll be fit.

 

[KingHotspur]

Your comment about officials and ex pros only holds up if they all agree on every incident which of course they don't. There would be no need for VAR if your comment was correct.

You then conflate that comment and suggest that that is used to support conspiracy. That is a different issue that is as old as football itself. You can hear that belief at almost every match when the watching fans disagree with an on pitch decision by the ref. It's how humans work.

I agree but I find it boring when every single game, the same old faces talk up a conspiracy against Spurs which doesn’t exist.

Like I’ve said many times, officials are inept not corrupt.

 

[KingHotspur]

I think the way we do business and the status of our club on the field and what we have become since 2019 can't be ignored when it comes to evaluating the quality of our purchases.

Simons profile is similar to ours as a club... definitely not top tier... can't see us attracting much better as things currently stand.

No issue with Spurs going for players with potential but you can’t rely on that.

Need to mix it in with decent established players so at worse you are mid table and not bottom three.

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

I think the way we do business and the status of our club on the field and what we have become since 2019 can't be ignored when it comes to evaluating the quality of our purchases.

Simons profile is similar to ours as a club... definitely not top tier... can't see us attracting much better as things currently stand.

A large part of the problem is we don't seem to go for those smart pickups to help squad depth anymore. We used to pick up the likes of Kieran Tripper or Matt Doherty for peanuts to offer rotation, cover and a subtle reminder to the starting player that if their standards dropped there was somebody capable ready to replace them at a moment's notice

The fact that Matt Doherty is still proving his worth to us as he was playing Palhinha onside yesterday underlines this

 

[Spurf]

I agree but I find it boring when every single game, the same old faces talk up a conspiracy against Spurs which doesn’t exist.

Like I’ve said many times, officials are inept not corrupt.

If you find it boring all you can do is move to other messages that interest you. We all have our likes and dislikes. For example I prefer positivity around my team because for me it's about entertainment, for others this is unrealistic and they prefer to say it as they see it. I think by and large Spurs forum is successful because we have a divergence of views. You yourself are an example of independent views and that all helps debate.

 

[Spurlock]

No issue with Spurs going for players with potential but you can’t rely on that.

Need to mix it in with decent established players so at worse you are mid table and not bottom three.

We don't seem to have the X factor when it comes to attracting these established players and we don't have the mentality as a club to attract them through offering competitive wages.

So I don't see it changing but in an ideal scenario, I agree, we need established experience. There are players out there who can play this role but you have to know your football to find these players since they are not headliners and unfortunately for us, our owners don't know football.

Example:

When Lesta won it in 16...they had Robert Huth who had all the minerals to lead them at the back and he was a previous winner. They also bought Cambiasso from Inter who was in the twilight of his career but had the pedigree of a winner. Both names aren't snobby enough for us though and they both lack the all important 'sell on potential', a non football issue from the handbook of these non football people.