Off Topic General Election

[Cityzen]

i know which party is going to win in my constituency.

i'm okay with the next goverment being as predicted, but i want them to understand they won because everybody's sick of the tories. i don't want them to start thinking thery were voted in because we support all their extreme marxist ****e, and i include wokism and the gender nonsense under extreme marxist ****e.

Much as Marxism is a load of ****e, Marx was not woke. He was an anti semitic racist though.

 

[x]

Much as Marxism is a load of ****e, Marx was not woke. He was an anti semitic racist though.

i added a bit more, btw.

 

[Cityzen]

i added a bit more, btw.

I don’t think more than 2 genders came into it in Marx’s time.

 

[steverico]

Again this was before my time and i may well be missing something, but didn't the outgoing labour chancellor basically leave a note to the incoming chancellor saying "there is no money left" or something like that?

I'm sure those things you've posted were great, but any party can list achievements whilst being in poor....none are keen to admit their **** ups and failures though are they

Apparently every chancellor has done this for many years, it’s a standing joke, when the Tory one does it this time, they really will mean it

 

[Off The Line]

We need to develop an International Migrant Policy due to Climate Breakdown. Maybe where each country takes a share of migrants based on the damage they have done to the planet. It's a ticking time-bomb that no-one is talking about. If countries carry on down the Reform route then their treatment will continue to deteriorate. Just look at Italy, who are locking up the vessels that save them in open sea.

 

[Kalman]

We need to develop an International Migrant Policy due to Climate Breakdown. Maybe where each country takes a share of migrants based on the damage they have done to the planet. It's a ticking time-bomb that no-one is talking about. If countries carry on down the Reform route then their treatment will continue to deteriorate. Just look at Italy, who are locking up the vessels that save them in open sea.

Most of them would end up in China then.

 

[dennisboothstash]

I'm sure the postmasters appreciate it.

Aye
He’s on a long list of politicians on that one, but you’re right

 

[tigerscanada]

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[originalminority]

Yeah, I have to agree, paying higher taxes doesn't automatically make you poorer. It's one of the reasons Scandinavian citizens earn more money than we do, their government has more to spend on the people, their economies are decent and quality of life is generally great.

They also manage very well to be European and keep their own currency.

 

[tigerscanada]

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[dennisboothstash]

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[Gone For A Walk]

I appreciate you’ve said you can’t have every policy the way you want them but you’ve raised a few interesting points that can’t be ignored.

What elements of sharia law are currently in place in the UK judicial system?

If an immigrant to this country has passed through safe countries to get here but has an established network of family already in the UK, why should we refuse them entry?

The ECHR protects everyone. If we opt out and a policy is enacted that impacts on you and you in turn do not agree with the new protection, no one wins.

Im curious to know what transgender ideologies you think are taught in school? As an educator of nearly 20 years, I can say that the only real difference between now and 2006 is that we now say “some people identify as…”

incentivising marriage through taxation opens a huge can of worms. Firstly, what makes marriage so much better than cohabitation? Can any married couple benefit from this? What about transgender married couples, do they get a tax break? What if non-romantic partners decide it suits their finances to get a quick marriage just for an extra 5%? It’s so open to abuse and fundamentally Dickensian.

stop and search disproportionately targets non-white young men. Teaching in an ethnically diverse area has taught me that society “adultifies” black and Asian men. I found it a massive learning curve myself when I moved out of Hull. Stop and search, definitely has its place but when a 14yr old black lad standing at 6ft gets treated like an adult but cries like a child, your perspective shifts somewhat

We can debate about whether or how much transgender ideologies have impacted schools, kids, society, or to what extent Sharia Law is already rearing it's head in the UK or when it will, or about the impact on a 6ft "black or Asian" lad, or what should happen to a particular immigrant arriving here illegally who happens to have his Uncle already here, or personal 'what if's' about ECHR, or whatever ...... but that all misses the point.

The point is I want a 'direction of travel' that is more likely to ensure those things don't happen or are implemented (as per Reforms 'contract'). We know full well by now that we won't see the changes needed (to make our country fairer, safer, to protect our values, etc) under the Tories or Labour . They are too scared and unwilling to address the issues. Reform at least stand on the 'direction of travel' I believe this country needs and that I want to see.

 

[Chesh1recat]

We can debate about whether or how much transgender ideologies have impacted schools, kids, society, or to what extent Sharia Law is already rearing it's head in the UK or when it will, or about the impact on a 6ft "black or Asian" lad, or what should happen to a particular immigrant arriving here illegally who happens to have his Uncle already here, or personal 'what if's' about ECHR, or whatever ...... but that all misses the point.

The point is I want a 'direction of travel' that is more likely to ensure those things don't happen or are implemented (as per Reforms 'contract'). We know full well by now that we won't see the changes needed (to make our country fairer, safer, to protect our values, etc) under the Tories or Labour . They are too scared and unwilling to address the issues. Reform at least stand on the 'direction of travel' I believe this country needs and that I want to see.

They are not scared or unwilling - it's intentional.

 

[tigerrev]

IF the polls are accurate, and the Tories get an absolute kicking, then they only have themselves to blame. Let's face it, you have to be pretty useless to go from having an 80 seat majority to a deficit of around 200 in one election. And it has just been OG after OG from the Tories these last 5 years. It's no good them saying Labour will do this or that, because people remember Britain's Blonde, Brilliant, Brexiteer, Bonking Buffoon (depending on which paper you read) Boris and his cronies getting pi55ed every Friday while the rest of us social distanced, they remember Liz Truss tanking the economy and everything costing us more and fresh in the mind is Rishi's fishy mates trying to pull a fast one at the bookies with their election date bets!

The result being that Labour are going to have a massive majority (which will keep them in power at least 10 years) not because they have a wonderful legislative programme that will revive the nation's aspirations, but because they are not the Tories. And apart from raising taxes in some way shape or form, none of us know what they are going to do because they haven't had to tell us.

As for the Fib-Dems, they and their leader are going to come up smelling of roses, despite the fact that he was post office minister at the time of the Horizon scandal. How he hasn't fallen on his sword I don't know - and I don't think he has been pressed enough about this.

 

[Cityzen]

IF the polls are accurate, and the Tories get an absolute kicking, then they only have themselves to blame. Let's face it, you have to be pretty useless to go from having an 80 seat majority to a deficit of around 200 in one election. And it has just been OG after OG from the Tories these last 5 years. It's no good them saying Labour will do this or that, because people remember Britain's Blonde, Brilliant, Brexiteer, Bonking Buffoon (depending on which paper you read) Boris and his cronies getting pi55ed every Friday while the rest of us social distanced, they remember Liz Truss tanking the economy and everything costing us more and fresh in the mind is Rishi's fishy mates trying to pull a fast one at the bookies with their election date bets!

The result being that Labour are going to have a massive majority (which will keep them in power at least 10 years) not because they have a wonderful legislative programme that will revive the nation's aspirations, but because they are not the Tories. And apart from raising taxes in some way shape or form, none of us know what they are going to do because they haven't had to tell us.

As for the Fib-Dems, they and their leader are going to come up smelling of roses, despite the fact that he was post office minister at the time of the Horizon scandal. How he hasn't fallen on his sword I don't know - and I don't think he has been pressed enough about this.

Except Boris wasn’t getting pissed every Friday. Sue Gray, who showed what an impartial civil servant she was by joining Labour, was in the building at those times and never saw anything she could report on.

 

[bradymk2]

Except Boris wasn’t getting pissed every Friday. Sue Gray, who showed what an impartial civil servant she was by joining Labour, was in the building at those times and never saw anything she could report on.

Youre a very loyal tory

 

[Charon]

Except Boris wasn’t getting pissed every Friday. Sue Gray, who showed what an impartial civil servant she was by joining Labour, was in the building at those times and never saw anything she could report on.

and of course Sir Beer never had a party, but he did and Rayner wasn't there, but she was

 

[Edelman]

and of course Sir Beer never had a party, but he did and Rayner wasn't there, but she was

Keir Statmer hardly strikes me as a person that lets his hair down and has fun .

 

[Noggin The Nog]

Apparently every chancellor has done this for many years, it’s a standing joke, when the Tory one does it this time, they really will mean it

Yeah, its a tradition going back many many years...Think I first heard it when Barber was CoftheE going back a few decades.

 

[originalminority]

IF the polls are accurate, and the Tories get an absolute kicking, then they only have themselves to blame. Let's face it, you have to be pretty useless to go from having an 80 seat majority to a deficit of around 200 in one election. And it has just been OG after OG from the Tories these last 5 years. It's no good them saying Labour will do this or that, because people remember Britain's Blonde, Brilliant, Brexiteer, Bonking Buffoon (depending on which paper you read) Boris and his cronies getting pi55ed every Friday while the rest of us social distanced, they remember Liz Truss tanking the economy and everything costing us more and fresh in the mind is Rishi's fishy mates trying to pull a fast one at the bookies with their election date bets!

The result being that Labour are going to have a massive majority (which will keep them in power at least 10 years) not because they have a wonderful legislative programme that will revive the nation's aspirations, but because they are not the Tories. And apart from raising taxes in some way shape or form, none of us know what they are going to do because they haven't had to tell us.

As for the Fib-Dems, they and their leader are going to come up smelling of roses, despite the fact that he was post office minister at the time of the Horizon scandal. How he hasn't fallen on his sword I don't know - and I don't think he has been pressed enough about this.

Those reasons and immigration which you don't mention. The Tories failure on immigration has pushed Tory voters to vote Reform which will increase many Labour seats, just hope Labour heed this massive protest vote.