Off Topic General Election

[Edelman]

See how much you're paying in tax today and compare it to 2/3yrs from now for a start

If they put NI Back to 10% that's fine by me as long as it funds Healthcare.
In fact I'd be happy with tax increases if it meant better healthcare and a better pension .
People seem to not grasp this .
Why do Scandinavian citizens seem to be happier even though they pay higher taxes ?

 

[Charon]

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they seem to have missed out illegal war, discovering weapons of mass destruction, tee hee, busting the country, selling off half our gold at rock bottom prices to pay off their overspending, plus the 2003 white paper cancelling all new builds of nuclear power stations, which they completely flip flopped 5 years later but it was too late - I could go on but I can't be arsed really - they're all as incompetent as each other

 

[Cityzen]

How? describe it

Higher taxes, restrictions on money allowed to take on holiday, devaluation and all the other things we saw under Labour in the 1960s with bollocks about the devaluation doesn’t mean the pound in your pocket is worth less. Which some daft sods took in.

 

[Steven Toast]

Any evidence of them being anti trans? Nothing wrong with Israel reacting to a bunch of murderous terrorist thugs, or as the BBC describe them “people working for Hamas” as hey would for plumbers and electrician. There is no such thing as a solid green energy plan. Especially as the rest of the world have yet to come up with one.

Yep. They back the Cass report which actively discourages gender transition and support among teens and removes puberty blockers from medical practice (which isn't something unique to trans people).

Nothing wrong with "defending your country", definitely something wrong with killing tens of thousands of civilians and celebrating death en masse under the guise of "self defence".

We aren't voting for the rest of the world, we're voting for the party that will pledge to reduce emissions and be more environmentally friendly. We don't work on a "they aren't so we won't" basis, otherwise we'd get sod all done.

 

[Cityzen]

Did I?

Apologies. Brain freeze. It was Helmandr.

 

[Amin Arrears]

This obsession with Israel and Palestine in UK politics has to stop FFS.

People are getting voted in on their stance on this subject when it’s got **** all to do with us.

Our country has got ninety nine problems but Palestine ain’t one.

Didn’t we create the problem in the first place by putting Israel there after the 2nd world war?

 

[Howdentiger2]

If they put NI Back to 10% that's fine by me as long as it funds Healthcare.
In fact I'd be happy with tax increases if it meant better healthcare and a better pension .
People seem to not grasp this .
Why do Scandinavian citizens seem to be happier even though they pay higher taxes ?

We all know that won't happen though will it

 

[Steven Toast]

Labour ( and any party for that matter ) would have done the same with contracts in that instance. Things needed to be sorted quickly and in times like that you go to people you know and ( hope ) you can trust. But putting that aside....the handouts everyone got, the handouts all the businesses got etc etc had to be funded somehow and from somewhere, unfortunately that doesn't come free. Some things were 100% handled wrongly and with the benefit of hindsight can easily be picked apart.

Tbh I bet rishi is going to love being the opposition, it's got to be the easiest job in the world, you can promise the earth, tell everyone how you'd do things better, criticise absolutely everything the government does. All from the safety of never actually having to do anything and with the benefit of hindsight.

I don't think Sunak is going to be leader of the opposition. He's about to oversee the worst electoral Tory performance in a long while, I imagine they'll boot him and a lot of his cabinet sharpish to save face.

 

[Kalman]

If they put NI Back to 10% that's fine by me as long as it funds Healthcare.
In fact I'd be happy with tax increases if it meant better healthcare and a better pension .
People seem to not grasp this .
Why do Scandinavian citizens seem to be happier even though they pay higher taxes ?

Smaller populations, post-war Keynesian consensus lasted longer, more homogeneous (barring Sweden) and therefore have more of a high-trust community spirit.

 

[Howdentiger2]

I don't think Sunak is going to be leader of the opposition. He's about to oversee the worst electoral Tory performance in a long while, I imagine they'll boot him and a lot of his cabinet sharpish to save face.

You're almost certainly correct....should have said the Tories on a whole will

 

[Evington]

The high standard of debate we expect from lefties.

Can't be arsed to debate .

 

[Amin Arrears]

I don't think Sunak is going to be leader of the opposition. He's about to oversee the worst electoral Tory performance in a long while, I imagine they'll boot him and a lot of his cabinet sharpish to save face.

Can’t do any worse than that old hag did the other year, when she snatched defeat from the jaws of an absolute landslide victory.

If Richy gets trounced he’s just done what everyone expected.

 

[Kalman]

Apologies. Brain freeze. It was Helmandr.

Racist against Old Norse names, Castro. We’re not all the same people

 

[Steven Toast]

If they put NI Back to 10% that's fine by me as long as it funds Healthcare.
In fact I'd be happy with tax increases if it meant better healthcare and a better pension .
People seem to not grasp this .
Why do Scandinavian citizens seem to be happier even though they pay higher taxes ?

Yeah, I have to agree, paying higher taxes doesn't automatically make you poorer. It's one of the reasons Scandinavian citizens earn more money than we do, their government has more to spend on the people, their economies are decent and quality of life is generally great.

 

[Edelman]

Labour ( and any party for that matter ) would have done the same with contracts in that instance. Things needed to be sorted quickly and in times like that you go to people you know and ( hope ) you can trust. But putting that aside....the handouts everyone got, the handouts all the businesses got etc etc had to be funded somehow and from somewhere, unfortunately that doesn't come free. Some things were 100% handled wrongly and with the benefit of hindsight can easily be picked apart.

Tbh I bet rishi is going to love being the opposition, it's got to be the easiest job in the world, you can promise the earth, tell everyone how you'd do things better, criticise absolutely everything the government does. All from the safety of never actually having to do anything and with the benefit of hindsight.

Benefit of hindsight ?
You really think you need hindsight to push aside long standing suppliers of PPE in favour of fellow Tory donors who had n0 experience of supplying ?
That's just plain corruption and I can't.velueve we have people supporting this practice even now it was plain corruption.

 

[Cityzen]

If they put NI Back to 10% that's fine by me as long as it funds Healthcare.
In fact I'd be happy with tax increases if it meant better healthcare and a better pension .
People seem to not grasp this .
Why do Scandinavian citizens seem to be happier even though they pay higher taxes ?

So

Racist against Old Norse names, Castro. We’re not all the same people

But you all look alike..l

 

[Howdentiger2]

Benefit of hindsight ?
You really think you need hindsight to push aside long standing suppliers of PPE in favour of fellow Tory donors who had n0 experience of supplying ?
That's just plain corruption and I can't.velueve we have people supporting this practice even now it was plain corruption.

I'm not supporting it, I'm just not daft enough to think only the Tories would do it.

 

[Steven Toast]

Benefit of hindsight ?
You really think you need hindsight to push aside long standing suppliers of PPE in favour of fellow Tory donors who had n0 experience of supplying ?
That's just plain corruption and I can't.velueve we have people supporting this practice even now it was plain corruption.

Yeah wasn't Mone's company set up just after lockdown? Gove has a lot to answer for, he seems to have weasled away into the shadows.

 

[Edelman]

I'm not supporting it, I'm just not daft enough to think only the Tories would do it.

I don't subscribe to this they are all the same crap .
Rory Stewart (Con)
Kenneth Clark ( Con )
Alan Johnson ( Lab )
Are not all the same they where all decent politicians who gave a **** .
It's just lazy to say they are all the same

 

[Edelman]

Yeah wasn't Mone's company set up just after lockdown? Gove has a lot to answer for, he seems to have weasled away into the shadows.

Yes it's scandalous