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You do realise Tony Blair and John Prescott ring fenced all the money for every school and health centre in Hull, the Tories could do **** all about it, and were furious, why do you think Hull gets nothing from central government? Payback for the millions they locked off for Hull.
The Tories built **** all in Hull, it was all down to Blair

Before my time I'm afraid, I was still in my very early 20s when labour lost power, so anything before that I don't claim to know as I was not interested in politics one bit. All I know is since I stopped playing and coaching football full time, the business I'm involved in is heavily invested in construction. The huge part of the UK arms turnover comes from the construction and refurb of schools, collages, uni's and healthcare buildings and facilities. If the reason Hull has had that cash is what you say then fair enough, but the rest of the UK has had serious money spent in it and quite rightly so ( whoever is behind it )
 
Much of which has been debunked, and other parts covered up.

I'll leave you to it, as it's just drifting all over, and you seem set in your beliefs.

It really hasn't been debunked, the report commissioned by the US government states clearly that there were Russian efforts to back Trump in the 2016 election (and also interfered in our electoral processes as well). Trump probably wasn't aware of it because, let's face it, he couldn't find his arse with both hands. It's not a case of belief, it's the findings of an investigation into interference in democratic elections. If you know better than them, enlighten me.

Russia are a hostile nation, a horrible one at that and I'm seeing more sympathy for them by the day on both social and legacy media.
 
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Why are they leaving ? Because they don’t like to pay their fair share of tax like the rest of us, I’ve always said rich people never have enough money do they?
Like that greedy **** Ratcliffe, just sacked 250 from Man Utd so they can give it to millionaire footballers, while the **** pays not a penny in UK tax, **** him, and **** the rest of them, they all probably paid less tax than you did.

O the way up Ratcliffe will have paid a fortune in tax.
 
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another hoot - ****ing clueless

I stopped listening after a few minutes as I wasn't the last on the list,and was low to mid 40's on the register in many classes. They hit us with sticks and other things too. Can I get compensation. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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I'm not familiar with the story, but they won't have been teaching primary because there's zero about multiculturalism or being gay in the national curriculum. It might come up as a question asked by a pupil, but schools have guidance on how to manage such questions and most teachers (wrongly, in my opinion) dodge those questions.

Fairly sure it began with a school book.

I am away right now and only have my phone, Google search keeps giving American stories.
 
It really hasn't been debunked, the report commissioned by the US government states clearly that there were Russian efforts to back Trump in the 2016 election (and also interfered in our electoral processes as well). Trump probably wasn't aware of it because, let's face it, he couldn't find his arse with both hands. It's not a case of belief, it's the findings of an investigation into interference in democratic elections. If you know better than them, enlighten me.

Russia are a hostile nation, a horrible one at that and I'm seeing more sympathy for them by the day on both social and legacy media.

As I said, you seem set in your beliefs, so there is no point in me carrying on. It has little to do with the UK election anyway.
 
You do realise Tony Blair and John Prescott ring fenced all the money for every school and health centre in Hull, the Tories could do **** all about it, and were furious, why do you think Hull gets nothing from central government? Payback for the millions they locked off for Hull.
The Tories built **** all in Hull, it was all down to Blair
Is that the John Prescott who was Transport Secretary? So who spent £400M on Castle Street, Prescott's Labour or the Tory government?
 
Fairly sure it began with a school book.

I am away right now and only have my phone, Google search keeps giving American stories.

This stuff often starts in America. It's not actually a thing, teaching kids to be gay or trans or to have litter boxes because they're a cat and secondary libraries don't tend to go through every text looking for stuff that people get annoyed about.

It's just outrage porn, invented to demonise people who in the eyes of the instigators shouldn't exist.
 
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It really hasn't been debunked, the report commissioned by the US government states clearly that there were Russian efforts to back Trump in the 2016 election (and also interfered in our electoral processes as well). Trump probably wasn't aware of it because, let's face it, he couldn't find his arse with both hands. It's not a case of belief, it's the findings of an investigation into interference in democratic elections. If you know better than them, enlighten me.

Russia are a hostile nation, a horrible one at that and I'm seeing more sympathy for them by the day on both social and legacy media.

I don’t really do social media but where have you seen sympathy for the Russian State?

I’ve seen non of this.

Every single person I speak to about it thinks their behaviour and invasion of Ukraine is disgraceful.
 
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Lots of very rich people vote for Labour. A lot of not so well of people vote Tory. That is the sort of black and white thinking with no shades of grey which bedevils Hull.
As for the NHS, the spending in real terms is the highest it has ever been. Countries like Denmark spend a lesser percentage of their GDP on their health service with better outcomes. The problem with the NHS is top heavy management and too many pen pushers and the debt they were saddle with by Blair and Brown loading it with PFI debt which means simple, even changing a light bulb, can cost a fortune
So basically, the headline here is that the conservatives have increased spending whilst standards in public services are declining. They have been in power 14 years and it’s still labours fault. And we should trust them with our money for another 5 years? I’m no labour fan, but it’s hard to argue against the need for a change in government. The conservatives have no redeeming features.
 
I saw someone say the NHS has replaced the Church of England as the de facto state religion in the UK after the war and I can’t stop thinking about it lmao.

Any criticism of the NHS is met with accusations of heresy, no matter how warranted it is. The answer is always ‘it’s underfunded’. I like single-payer universal healthcare as a concept and always have but our NHS needs serious reform and the answer isn’t necessarily just to chuck more money at it.

And I don’t serve the NHS as an entity. It’s not God or a king I swear fealty to. It serves me. It’s what my taxes and National Insurance contributions go to.

I have had great service from the NHS, costing a fair amount of money and without which I wouldn’t be here now so am very grateful, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be improved. It falls down badly on early diagnosis and preventative treatment. A mixture of state and private such as in France would improve things. Less trouble seeing a doctor there as they are paid on how many they see not how many are registered. My surgery has amalgamated with another and you cannot see a doctor. After weeks of waiting after a referral from a nurse I have now got an appointment with a clinician. A telephone appointment. All my specialist reports go to a clinician, who I have never met and who is paid a lot less than a doctor, instead of my own, excellent, doctor who is familiar with my conditions after 12 years.
 
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There was more money ploughed into Hull under the Tories. Who was in power at the time of City Of Culture? Prescott was Deputy PM and did **** all for Hull compared to what Denis Healey did as an MP and Deputy PM did for Leeds.
Oh **** off now, Prescott got Blair to fund all the new schools and health centres that have been built since Labour was in power, the money was ring fenced so no one could touch it for anything else, that’s a decent legacy for Prescott in my view.
And the City of Culture was the brainchild of Andy Burnham who was Labour Culture secretary in 2009, he nicked it when Liverpool got European City of Culture, another fine Labour City, facts don’t really matter when you slag off a party you don’t like eh
 
So basically, the headline here is that the conservatives have increased spending whilst standards in public services are declining. They have been in power 14 years and it’s still labours fault. And we should trust them with our money for another 5 years? I’m no labour fan, but it’s hard to argue against the need for a change in government. The conservatives have no redeeming features.

I 100% agree a change is needed, I also think it'll end up being worse under Mr flip flop and we as individuals will be worse off. Hopefully I'm wrong.....but let's not forget, Labour aren't getting in because they are offering us something better, huge change or because Kier is a knight in shining armour who's the answer to all our prayers. They are getting in because the Tories are just that bad.
 
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Elbridge Colby( that’s spelt correctly) will probably be one of Trumpers chief security advisers when he wins the next presidential election.

His views on China as being the USA’s main threat compared to Russia are an eye opener. NATO should be very mindful of how it moves forward because the appetite to support Europe, from the Republicans, is waning.

Massively.
 
Oh **** off now, Prescott got Blair to fund all the new schools and health centres that have been built since Labour was in power, the money was ring fenced so no one could touch it for anything else, that’s a decent legacy for Prescott in my view.
And the City of Culture was the brainchild of Andy Burnham who was Labour Culture secretary in 2009, he nicked it when Liverpool got European City of Culture, another fine Labour City, facts don’t really matter when you slag off a party you don’t like eh

I didn’t say City of Culture was a Tory idea, I said a lot of investment came in whilst the Tories were in power during City Of Culture. It does help if you read what was written.
 
I don’t really do social media but where have you seen sympathy for the Russian State?

I’ve seen non of this.

Every single person I speak to about it thinks their behaviour and invasion of Ukraine is disgraceful.

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That is all!
 
I didn’t say City of Culture was a Tory idea, I said a lot of investment came in whilst the Tories were in power during City Of Culture. It does help if you read what was written.
You ****ing made out like it was the Tories, you should be ashamed of yourself sticking up for those thieving ****s, no MSM mentions of Sunaks family receiving huge government contracts, no mentions of untold PPE billions lining the pockets of Tories and their mates, the lot of them should be in prison **** the Tories and all who vote for them.
Goodnight and **** you all
 
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