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Exactly..The EU is a big enough player to do this. We on the other hand are not and if we go down the free market route then nations like India may not agree with tariffs and just undercut us.. As I said. it is now a globalised world and outside the EU we are a small fish in a very big pond..
then we stop India's massive free hand out off us, which pays for there space program, hang on who supplies the parts for their space program
No. I'm not voting for a party. I vote for a philosophy. It's who I am.
On that basis, I'm not swayed by party politics. Party comes second to personal philosophy.
I get that people could argue against that, even be horrified by that. At the same time, I'm equally horrified that people can change their votes on the basis of the biggest loudest headlines in the press just a few hours before making a decision they don't get to make too many times in their life.
For me, philosophy is who you are, not what you read or hear.
Ive just heard that 2 girls will both be voting Labour tomorrow because their dad told them to.
So much for the rights of the citizen
Still rather be a fish in a pond than a fish in a tank...
now that i liked if it wasnt for Abbott and Corbint , i would vote Labour but them 2 no wayThe ****ing clown! Roasted!
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We've got Brexit in our face. Time limited.
The result of the last referendum threw the biggest hand grenade in front of our country since WW2.
How anyone could consider pushing forward Corbyn forward to lead the negotiations is beyond me.
His record on pushing the UK's position is, as an absolutism, against all others, as we are now, still to get off "Start".
The result of the last referendum threw the biggest hand grenade in front of our country since WW2.
How anyone could consider pushing forward Corbyn forward to lead the negotiations is beyond me.
His record on pushing the UK's position is, as an absolutism, against all others, as we are now, still to get off "Start".
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That's strong leadership. She's not up to it so demote her. If only May could see the incompetence in some of her stooges.
Boris Johnson left floundering after a journalist finally asks the question that could sink the Tories [VIDEO]
JUNE 7TH, 2017
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At long last, a journalist has asked the question that could sink the Conservatives after the recent terror attacks. Channel 4‘s Michael Crick left Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson in a mess after challenging him on a report into terrorist funding. The Conservatives are trying to suppress the investigation because it reportedly highlights the role Saudi Arabia plays in funding terror.
Theresa May is a strong supporter of Saudi Arabia, and her government recently approved £3.5bn worth of arms export licences. The Conservatives only issued the investigation in the first place as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats. Now they are burying its findings, which appears to suggest the ruling party values arms sales to a foreign power over the safety of British citizens.
The million-dollar question
Crick asked:
A visibly distressed Johnson fumbled in response:
But Crick wasn’t having it:
By contrast, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour has pledged to place UK foreign policy in line with international law. The party will end all arms sales to regimes if there is concern they are committing war crimes. Corbyn would also create a new Minister for Peace. The Labour leader said:
In the current climate, the appalling display of messed-up priorities could sink the Conservatives.
JUNE 7TH, 2017
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UKAt long last, a journalist has asked the question that could sink the Conservatives after the recent terror attacks. Channel 4‘s Michael Crick left Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson in a mess after challenging him on a report into terrorist funding. The Conservatives are trying to suppress the investigation because it reportedly highlights the role Saudi Arabia plays in funding terror.
Theresa May is a strong supporter of Saudi Arabia, and her government recently approved £3.5bn worth of arms export licences. The Conservatives only issued the investigation in the first place as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats. Now they are burying its findings, which appears to suggest the ruling party values arms sales to a foreign power over the safety of British citizens.
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“Why has your govt suppressed a report on the funding of terror groups?” @MichaelLCrick challenges Foreign Sec on relationship with Saudi.
2:00 PM - 6 Jun 2017
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The million-dollar question
Crick asked:
Mr Johnson, why has your government suppressed this report on the funding of terrorist groups, which apparently points the finger hugely at the Saudis? Isn’t it better for you, in the current climate, to confront the Saudis about this rather than cosying up to them?
The Conservative Party has a close relationship with Saudi Arabia. Tory politicians have received nearly £100,000 in gifts, trips and fees from the hereditary dictatorship.A visibly distressed Johnson fumbled in response:
Look I… I… think err, you’re making a, err… valid point about the funding…
Then Johnson engaged in about a minute of empty platitudes. Speaking about institutions where “all sorts of hate-filled nonsense is being spouted”, he simply said:we’ve got to stop that
‘You’re suppressing it, aren’t you?’But Crick wasn’t having it:
Publish it!
… You’re suppressing it, aren’t you?
Under pressure, Johnson said:… You’re suppressing it, aren’t you?
No, Michael. We have plenty of stuff we don’t publish.
The sitting Foreign Secretary also contradicted himself. At first, Johnson quickly claimed:I can’t comment on any confidential report
But by the end, Johnson was saying:We do not have any confidential report of the kind that you described.
Labour on Saudi ArabiaBy contrast, Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour has pledged to place UK foreign policy in line with international law. The party will end all arms sales to regimes if there is concern they are committing war crimes. Corbyn would also create a new Minister for Peace. The Labour leader said:
I see it as the next Labour Government’s task, as my task, to make the case for Britain to advance a security and foreign policy with integrity and human rights at its core.
Meanwhile, Johnson’s spluttering response shows the Saudi question really hit a spot. Voters will rightly be asking how the government expects them to believe it is serious on terror, while suppressing a crucial report to protect a foreign power. Especially given the Saudi state ideology of Wahhabism is the driving doctrine behind Daesh (Isis/Isil).In the current climate, the appalling display of messed-up priorities could sink the Conservatives.
May has had one meeting with the other leaders and somehow managed to unite them all and alienate us in one go..She can't even face up to a public debate with Corbyn so how on earth will she manage with the EU negotiations? Corbyn on the other hand has stood up to an absolute media frenzy against him and has came out looking stronger and stronger.. I know which one I would have negotiating on out behalf.
To be fair, Cobyns negotiations have won him the Gandi peace prize, what's May done to bring confidence in negotiations? She's proved incompetent at running an election campaign. Evaded 1 to 1 dialog with people who oppose her policies. How is she going to hold up when the deal she offers in the brexit negotiations are opposed?
She's been invisible RAW. Her political nous this election has been appalling. God knows where the Tory political advisers have been all this time!
In spite of that, having Corbyn face up to the europeans scares the crap out of me.
I was one of his biggest critics, but the calm way he has handled a boat load of **** that's been thrown his way has won me over..
Just replied to RAW'S post with similar issues.
She's been Appalling!
But the only thing more frightening than having May across the table opposite the EU is Corbyn. His heart is with the EU.
What staggers me is that, every other issue, compared to Brexit, is irrelevant compared to the higgest decision facing the UK since WW2.
Does anyone think that Corbyn will negotiate the **** out of the EU until they get tired and give up and go home? Coz that's what I'd want from my lead negotiator.
National and local politics has to take a sidestep, just for now.
G'night. Should've been knocking out Zeds ages ago.
He's had a fantastic election RAW. This is the highlight of his political career.
But being won over?
The links with the IRA, Hamas, Al Muhajiroun?
The disloyalty of far, far too many votes against his own party during his parliamentary career?
Re-nationalisation? Do we really have to go back to the 1970's to move forward?