Off Topic General election

[Brian Storm]

I'm not bothering voting. I'm traditionally a labour voter, but politics has been put in a blender recently and I just dont know what to make of it. Things arent as black and white (or red and blue) anymore. Besides I'm from old coalfields of North West Durham, Labour could dig up Jimmy Savile and place him as leader and they would still win here.

Never black and white with Politics. Corbyn is the about as decent a person as a politician will ever get, but I'm under no illusions. Behind him are as many self serving politicians as sit opposite him. I'm also aware that being a decent person isn't necessarily enough to run the country. It's a minefield with risk everywhere.

 

[ImissedShack]

He didn't say that. This has been part of the problem with the Tory campaign, While May has shied away from running a proper campaign, people like you have stepped in desperately trying to twist words.

He said he's not comfortable with shoot to kill(me to, I'd rether they faced up to their actions rather than be given a quick and painless way out) and would perfer it not get to that stage. If you'd paid one ounce of attention to anything he's said in this matter, is that he wants to help settle things in the middle east by doing things like stop selling arms to countries in the area and by negotiating with countries(not terrorists) about bring peace to the region. He has not said at any point that he would negotiate with Terrorists. You're seriously lacking credibility now fella. Any fool knows ISIS can't be negotiated with.

Did you watch the video? If any fool knows you can't negotiate with terrorists what category does Corbyn fall into?

 

[marcusblackcat]

Never black and white with Politics. Corbyn is the about as decent a person as a politician will ever get, but I'm under no illusions. Behind him are as many self serving politicians as sit opposite him. I'm also aware that being a decent person isn't necessarily enough to run the country. It's a minefield with risk everywhere.

I'm not a political person but I do get interested in the run up to an election. Corbyn has recently gone up in my estimation. He's handled himself far better than May recently (she's looked a blithering idiot in some of the things I've seen) - I also think if I was to bump into Corbyn on the street and ask him political questions then he could handle himself well - I don't think that May could!!

Still have no idea what to do on Thursday! But my gaffer thinks there's every chance of a hung parliament!

 

[Brian Storm]

Did you watch the video? If any fool knows you can't negotiate with terrorists what category does Corbyn fall into?

I did watch it, he doesn't say it anywhere. I don't think you watched the video. You just pressed play and saw what you want.

Oh by the way. The souce of your video has failed in recent days doing this on other matters. Want to see?

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And on and on it goes. 1 click to see the whole timelime. Your slip is showing Shack on this one.

 

[Brian Storm]

I'm not a political person but I do get interested in the run up to an election. Corbyn has recently gone up in my estimation. He's handled himself far better than May recently (she's looked a blithering idiot in some of the things I've seen) - I also think if I was to bump into Corbyn on the street and ask him political questions then he could handle himself well - I don't think that May could!!

Still have no idea what to do on Thursday! But my gaffer thinks there's every chance of a hung parliament!

I was anti Corbyn before this election. Didn't have anything to go on but the word of my elders and I foolishly let them mold my opinion. They scaremongered me over his 'policies' which actually turned out to be ideals based on a drive of righting wrongs and turns out in no way exclusively connected to his political policy. Yes he wants rid of trident. Is he going to do it? No, he just craves for a world where he can. He'll never achieve it as good vs evil is a never ending battle but he's in that battle on the front line for good. But his sentiments and morals can help make the world a better place even if he'll never deliver on his ideals. My opinion has changed considerably, he's a good man, he won The Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award 2013. People like Shack who are intent on twisting words to try and depict him to be a bad man just isn't washing. He's clearly not a bad man, they're flogging a dead horse. He's ran fantastic campaign and if he doesn't win, he's managed to utterly transform his reputation and proved beyond doubt that he is a thoroughly decent human being. He deserves that. I'd like to shake his hand. He's gone from a back bench joke do a decent credible man of peace, what he clearly always was. I'm pleased for him. Topper fella. Would have been interesting to see if he could have done a good job as PM.

 

[clockstander]

Never black and white with Politics. Corbyn is the about as decent a person as a politician will ever get, but I'm under no illusions. Behind him are as many self serving politicians as sit opposite him. I'm also aware that being a decent person isn't necessarily enough to run the country. It's a minefield with risk everywhere.

Even as a supporter I hope he doesn't win tbh., let May and her three stooges sort the mess out, hopefully with a reduced majority. If Corbyn did win, he would be slaughtered either by Junker's army, aided by the capitalist lobby or even worse his own backstabbing colleagues, of which there are plenty, he deserves a better deal than we are going to get imo.

 

[Brian Storm]

Even as a supporter I hope he doesn't win tbh., let May and her three stooges sort the mess out, hopefully with a reduced majority. If Corbyn did win, he would be slaughtered either by Junker's army, aided by the capitalist lobby or even worse his own backstabbing colleagues, of which there are plenty, he deserves a better deal than we are going to get imo.

But NHS and Social Care are on it's knees. I'll fight right to the polling stations for our elderly to have the right to die in comfort, with dignity, free of worry.

 

[clockstander]

But NHS and Social Care are on it's knees. I'll fight right to the polling stations for our elderly to have the right to die in comfort, with dignity, free of worry.

I'm with you all the way mate, the fight to improve our institutions goes on, this has not been the one sided landslide envisaged, and it is mostly down to Corbyn, who is obviously not the clown, most, including some on here, would like us to believe.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Ir the Tories win, RAW, it might just be because of that monumental waste of oxygen, Diane Abbott. Her only qualification seems to be having shagged JC back in the day...

Abbott has always been someone who I have thought of as a liability. However, at this moment in time I have genuine concerns for her mental well-being. She is slurring her words and does not seem to comprehend what is being asked..

 

[Deleted #]

take care marra.. I may argue until I'm blue in the teeth over politics, but I would never fall out with people over it as some of my best friends would testify..

Absolute gentleman.

You always have been. Hopefully I can shake off my demons for good one day and live with the sort of personality and attitude that you have.

 

[Brian Storm]

Abbott has always been someone who I have thought of as a liability. However, at this moment in time I have genuine concerns for her mental well-being. She is slurring her words and does not seem to comprehend what is being asked..

She certainly doesn't look to be coping with this election campaign. Byond her performance as a politician she's still a human being, she should step back if it's making her ill. It looks like it is tbh

 

[Makemstine Roger]

2nd time for me. 2nd time voting too. Didn't vote last time out.

ahhhhh ya fekker so your not a virgin after all.

 

[Brian Storm]

Stephen Hawking has announced he's voting Labour, declaring that Tories will be a disaster for the NHS, police and public services. Smart fella. Just saying.

 

[Brian Storm]

ahhhhh ya fekker so your not a virgin after all.

Oh no, never said I was fella. After this election I'll have voted 2 out of a possible 5.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

Hope or Despair?

For the record I never voted for Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party and strongly opposed his ‘off the cuff talks’ with terrorist groups such as Hamas and the IRA. However, after listening to all what he has said on these subjects, and he has met the onslaught of the predominantly Tory mainstream media head on regarding this, I do believe that he did talk to these people for honourable reasons in order to try and develop common ground for peaceful settlements.

As for this election, all the Tories are offering is more of the same, which has seen local government, police and fire services cut to the bone, whilst the deficit has doubled and the rich have had tax cuts. There is nothing of hope that the Tories are offering and just repeat the slogan “Strong and Stable” which means absolutely nothing..

As for UKIP, I hear people saying they are the only ones who will secure our borders. In reality, when questioned, even they admit that immigration is absolutely essential for the nation. What they fail to tell us is as massive advocates of the free and open market they will go for the cheapest option for foreign labour, which in reality means with the end of people coming over from the EU, we will get the cheaper option of workers coming from Africa and Asia. I somehow don’t think this is what the majority of UKIP supporters actually want! I also hear people saying that UKIP are the only party to save our children and grandchildren’s future! They are a party full of climate change deniers for goodness sake and would pull out and reverse all of the schemes and agreements for renewable energy and carbon reductions. This poses a far greater long-term danger to our offspring than terrorism ever will.

The SNP are a one trick pony independence party and a vote for them is in essence helping the Tories stay in national government. No more to be said really.

Labour, however, are offering a total change of direction, and will increase taxes to those that can afford it to invest in our infrastructure and services. Will it be a resounding success? Who knows, but at least it is a change of direction from the utterly failing policies of our current government.

This is why I will be voting Labour this Thursday as I believe they are the party of hope as opposed to despair, but regardless of your politics, if you are my friend today you will still be my friend on Friday morning, as my friendship transcends politics..

You have got to be Jossing, Reg, ABBOT AND COSTELLO NEVER IN THE CREATION OF CRAWS **** WILL I VOTE FOR THEM 2

 

[Smug in Boots]

I'm not a political person but I do get interested in the run up to an election. Corbyn has recently gone up in my estimation. He's handled himself far better than May recently (she's looked a blithering idiot in some of the things I've seen) - I also think if I was to bump into Corbyn on the street and ask him political questions then he could handle himself well - I don't think that May could!!

Still have no idea what to do on Thursday! But my gaffer thinks there's every chance of a hung parliament!

I find the whole thing frightening mate, the idea of May being where the buck stops in these difficult times.

And, as for leaving Europe ...... it may have seemed like self determination but I think it'll be a massive mistake.

In 10 years time we'll still be in turmoil and nowhere near the end of it all.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

He didn't cost, he made promises which didn't add up and he couldn't back up and became known as a complete question dodger. Laughing stock.

JUST LIKE ABBOTT AND CORBELLO

 

[Brian Storm]

I find the whole thing frightening mate, the idea of May being where the buck stops in these difficult times.

And, as for leaving Europe ...... it may have seemed like self determination but I think it'll be a massive mistake.

In 10 years time we'll still be in turmoil and nowhere near the end of it all.

When May talks about Brexit it's like she doesn't realise the economies lean on each other, both prospering is in the best interest of everybody. She want's the best deal for us bet never ventures into the fact that in the long term the best deal is a fair deal for both sides. The fact she's willing to walk away if she doesn't get her way is frankly scary and sends alarm bells that she's incapable of this. Corburn seems to realise the importance of not failing in these negotiations. May clearly does not if she's willing to walk without a deal. It's not an option that should be even considered. She's so weak.

 

[Brian Storm]

JUST LIKE ABBOTT AND CORBELLO

Labour's Manifesto is costed fella. All parties in this election I've found to be incredibly frank except the Tories. Like their secret plans to further cut the NHS for example which they've failed to bring up before the election but fortunately, for the good of the country, have been leaked.

Abbott is fool, there's no defending her, she's lost the plot and I've never implied she's competent.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

Labour's Manifesto is costed fella. All parties in this election I've found to be incredibly frank except the Tories. Like their secret plans to further cut the NHS for example which they've failed to bring up before the election but fortunately, for the good of the country, have been leaked.

Abbott is fool, there's no defending her, she's lost the plot and I've never implied she's competent.

Costello has also been grilled on T.V. about his policies and costings and was found to be wanting, think he could have got the question right in the end but wasn't allowed to take his socks and shoes off and use his toes, for anything over 10