yorkshirehornet
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well with global warming when we side with Trump and abandon Kyoto... i expect a good 10 years production of these products in about 25 years time before the ecosystem fails us
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There was a select committee looking into the effect of Brexit on small farms, and Norman Lamont had to be guided very slowly through a system that was totally interconnected by a lady from the NFU. Welsh sheep farmers do rely heavily on EU subsidies, and it was good news for some when an American company spent £Ms building a processing plant in the wilds of north Wales, where the sheep are reared. This happened so that the Americans had access to the EU market. Because of the location about 80 people a day had to be taken to the site by buses to work in the plant, about 20% EU nationals. Diversify was the Lamont view when it came to reduced subsidy. So less sheep and the plant will close because it will not be economic, and there are few openings to create new markets. He took quite a time to realize that American investment, employment, subsidies and farming are all joined together by the EU.
The sport is called both ping pong and table tennis. It has previously had forms known as wiff waff and gossima.
Why does the government keep going to court and losing? This time they tried to avoid publishing the environmental plan that they had been ordered to on two previous occasions, using the election as an excuse to not comply with previous orders. Mr Justice Garnham said Andrea Leadsom, the Environment Secretary, was "obliged to comply with orders of this court as any other litigant". The governments own lawyer described the air pollution plan as a “controversial bomb”.
I doubt that there'll be any such production - the common thinking is that global warming will actually cause a cooling down of our climate. If it's too cold now to produce them....
yorkshirehornet
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If SH really wishes to do his bit for the NHS maybe he should start a recruitment agency. 64,000 unfilled posts in England and Wales for doctors and nurses. Every week 100's from the EU leaving as they feel unwelcome. Training places unfilled. Existing staff working extra hours unpaid to try and cover the shortage. Only Italy from the G7 spend less of their GDP on health than the UK. These are the type of issues that should be discussed in a General Election. It doesn't look very much like a strong and stable NHS.
yorkshirehornet
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Damning facts eh...
..and of course we all fear what BREXIT will do to the ability to quickly employ overseas staff
My company has benefitted the NHS enormously and continues to do so thanks. Starting a new company would interfere with my holidays and social life, so I'm out!!
Perhaps the opposite will be true. Hypothetically, will all those who feel themselves unwelcome and leave the UK to return to the EU reduce the stress on the NHS and by extension create a smaller requirement for staff.
I am firmly of the opinion that while the NHS offers a valuable service it certainly needs a dramatic overhaul to enable the organisation to function more effectively, in regards to those who need it. I fail to see how an organisation held up to be so wonderful and a beacon for the world to aspire to by so many, in the UK, can be so poor in comparison, generally, to its equivalents in other nations around the world.
Of course the UK will need and want staff from overseas, the difference being the UK controls the numbers. We will be able to chose the best and brightest around the world rather than the limiting pool in the EU.
yorkshirehornet
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I think the overseas visitors using the NHS is a bit of a red herring in relation to cost:
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In relation to your second point...a visit to any older large hospital reveals something of the problem manifesting in the estate..... sprawling and disjointed building of all ages with long walkways etc etc I don't know where they can start ... as low investment to need ratio means they are always firefighting
What a shame that politics is such a short term game. The NHS was innovative and brilliant when it was introduced. Now it is a patched up football of political parties. Education is the future of a country yet again it is just treated as a short term battleground between parties.
People react like automatons - how many people on here give balanced praise and blame to different points of view? Even more so in the country where voters often have no idea what they are voting for.
How on earth can you get radical thinking and visions for the future when every five years it is change and change about. I despair of democracy but as someone else must have said I guess it is better than anything else.
People react like automatons - how many people on here give balanced praise and blame to different points of view? Even more so in the country where voters often have no idea what they are voting for.
How on earth can you get radical thinking and visions for the future when every five years it is change and change about. I despair of democracy but as someone else must have said I guess it is better than anything else.
The problem with 'all change every 5 years' is that nobody is prepared to invest in the longer term ie. where the benefits will appear outside of the immediate electoral term. Another 'problem' is that we call countries 'democracies' without actually defining the term - or realizing that democracy is a process not a finished product. If all the political ideas are coming out of the 1-2% of people who are party members and the other 98% are simply saying yay or nay every 5 years then that is not real democracy - because the vast majority are simply passive.
By the end of the next parliament it will be 12 years with the same government, a fair degree of continuity.
You may be right - but that is actually worse because at no stage did anyone plan more than 4 to 5 years ahead.
This is wrong on all levels
First, the vast majority of EU nationals living here are relatively young workers who make little demand on the NHS and may significant amounts in tax and NI
Second the number of WY nationals in the NHS
yorkshirehornet
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