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Steven Toast said:
Labour weren't silent on it though, that's another false meme that's been doing the rounds. Kier Starmer said that not only should the individuals that failed to act be punished (several of whom were Labour related), but also the law needs looking at as well.

Simon Danczuk MP (Labour) also criticised the authorities light footedness and highlighted the importance of confronting the issue head on.

So they weren't silent on it, they did interviews in the media, but predictably, those interviews weren't picked up in the MSM. In fact, many MPs on both sides were calling for the PPC to resign, though I don't think he actually did.

It's just another attempt at skewering Labour.
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Fair points if correct. I used one example that came to mind, there have been many. Both sides have used underhand tactics. It's how elections work.

I think the vitriol and hatred shown by many of Corbyn's supporters towards Brexit supporters, 'gammon' etc. is worrying if he were to get in power.
 
Heimdallr said:
Fair points if correct. I used one example that came to mind, there have been many. Both sides have used underhand tactics. It's how elections work.

I think the vitriol and hatred shown by many of Corbyn's supporters towards Brexit supporters, 'gammon' etc. is worrying if he were to get in power.
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True, but I think the whole gammon/boomer thing stems from the younger generation. They get called "snowflake" or "soy boy" or some other term and are expected to deal with it, but call somebody a boomer or gammon and they fly off the handle. The one that annoys me is "you can't do ___________ without being called racist." or,the much more common, "suppose I'm a racist for having an opinion."

Only if your opinion is racist, pal.
 
Steven Toast said:
I don't, I'm fully aware of what Labour did in Peterborough, I don't condone it; you're right, it smacked of dodgyness.

I'm not implying Labour are clean, but they haven't resorted to openly trying to con people using tricks that wouldn't fool a Mrs Brown's Boys fan. In this election, they haven't had to con anybody, the Tory party are pretty much a walking meme factory. Though they did pull a stunt earlier today which wasn't too clever, perhaps they're getting worried too.
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Fair enough....I think modern politics is in a sad state for all sides. I'm only trying to wind you up :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I listen to a few podcasts (and this is aimed at everyone). I was listening to a Joe Rogan one with Kyle Kylnski (check spelling). Anyway, his idea was direct democracy in that every GE you also put 3-5 issues to the public in a referendum at the same time......thoughts?

Personally I think its great. Easy to implement and a way towards more democracy to help steer the ship. Thoughts.
 
Obadiah said:
From the videos I've seen its happening in other places as well. Long lines of young people standing patiently in the rain. If its widespread there may well be a few shocks tonight and tomorrow.
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Fair play to them for standing outside in a Stormzy
 
Idi Amin said:
Fair enough....I think modern politics is in a sad state for all sides. I'm only trying to wind you up :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I listen to a few podcasts (and this is aimed at everyone). I was listening to a Joe Rogan one with Kyle Kylnski (check spelling). Anyway, his idea was direct democracy in that every GE you also put 3-5 issues to the public in a referendum at the same time......thoughts?

Personally I think its great. Easy to implement and a way towards more democracy to help steer the ship. Thoughts.
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I really like Joe Rogan.

Yeah, that's a pretty decent idea and would give parties a better idea of what people actually want, instead of assuming what they want. Then people are voting for what they chose, rather than options from a menu.

But it's far too much like socialism to ever be allowed...
 
Steven Toast said:
Labour weren't silent on it though, that's another false meme that's been doing the rounds. Kier Starmer said that not only should the individuals that failed to act be punished (several of whom were Labour related), but also the law needs looking at as well.

Simon Danczuk MP (Labour) also criticised the authorities light footedness and highlighted the importance of confronting the issue head on.

So they weren't silent on it, they did interviews in the media, but predictably, those interviews weren't picked up in the MSM. In fact, many MPs on both sides were calling for the PPC to resign, though I don't think he actually did.

It's just another attempt at skewering Labour.
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http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2015/08/3...pical-of-how-he-picks-and-chooses-his-causes/

I appreciate things like this will be lost on the Labour Moonies but Corbyn did nothing about child abuse
 
Steven Toast said:
I really like Joe Rogan.

Yeah, that's a pretty decent idea and would give parties a better idea of what people actually want, instead of assuming what they want. Then people are voting for what they chose, rather than options from a menu.

But it's far too much like socialism to ever be allowed...
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****.....am I a socialist?

I may need to rethink my whole existence.

Personally, I would like to see more democracy, every 4 yrs or via tech and do mini referendums online. It must be possible. I just want smaller government.
 
Idi Amin said:
****.....am I a socialist?

I may need to rethink my whole existence.

Personally, I would like to see more democracy, every 4 yrs or via tech and do mini referendums online. It must be possible. I just want smaller government.
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I think online voting would really reach out to the tech generation, but it would be so prone to hacking, they just wouldn't risk it. The use of bots is a concern already, as is foreign interference. I signed up for Youtube Premium using a VPN to India, which meant I can get it for £1.02 a month. I'm the worst person ever.
 
The Omega Man said:
The turnout round here looks high.

Loads of young voters in the queue to vote. If this is reflected across the country, tonight may see a few lose their seats.
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Are you still in Southampton? If so any truth on the rumours that hundreds of youngsters have been sent away because they had no ID or polling cards?
 
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