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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Castro can you just put what you believe in and why all you do is post attacks and sneer at labour
That’s fine you don’t like them
What is it you do like about the torries
Post something positive ffs
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It is more a case of what I don’t like. Of course no one is sneering at the Tories, are they! Oh no.

Something positive? I am positive that Corbyn , Abbott, McDonnell and others are incompetent , useless twats who would ruin the country. I just wish there was someone more competent than Johnson leading the Tories as I don’t hold him in high regard,
 
Barchullona said:
It is more a case of what I don’t like. Of course no one is sneering at the Tories, are they! Oh no.

Something positive? I am positive that Corbyn , Abbott, McDonnell and others are incompetent , useless twats who would ruin the country. I just wish there was someone more competent than Johnson leading the Tories as I don’t hold him in high regard,
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Labour aren't the only other option at a national level, they've no chance of a majority and if they formed a minority govt backed by SNP, ld, green and plaid they'd be kept very much in check
 
Any other election and Labour would walk back into Number 10 such is the state of the country but, because of who Labour’s leader is and the questions over their manifesto and stance on Brexit, they’re struggling too.

Have the two main parties ever been this much of a mess?
 
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Leon T Trout AFC said:
And even more unequal now.
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Wjhat happened in the 70s has not necessarily any import 50 years later.

But I recall the miners bringing down Ted Heath's democratically elected govt in the winter of 73/74, the three day weeks because of lack of power, the power cuts affecting West Hull which started at 8pm, candles at the ready and wrap up warm, HRI on emergency generators, schools closed, kids sent home to cold houses. City v Liverpool on a Tuesday afternoon, NI v ESP on a Wednesday afternoon. Hey but you know what ? We survived no blubbing.

Then towards the end of that decade, inflation at around 20% , life savings ****ed in a matter of months, firemen's strikes, binmen strikes, gravediggers strikes (Bring out your dead, no hang on, don't!), and the IMF telling us to **** off when we went cap in hand to them.

It was equally **** for most people as I recall, hence Baroness Thatcher got elected.

Like I say, that was then but this is now....
 
Cortez91 said:
Any other election and Labour would walk back into Number 10 such is the state of the country but, because of who Labour’s leader is and the questions over their manifesto and stance on Brexit, they’re struggling too.

Have the two main parties ever been this much of a mess?
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I wholeheartedly agree with your statement...It's more or less pick the best of a bad bunch!!
 
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pierredelafranchesca said:
Labour aren't the only other option at a national level, they've no chance of a majority and if they formed a minority govt backed by SNP, ld, green and plaid they'd be kept very much in check
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Under the current system a vote for those will have no effect, except swinging votes between Labour and Tory marginals. PR would. Unfortunately that is why we won’t see it.
 
Cortez91 said:
Any other election and Labour would walk back into Number 10 such is the state of the country but, because of who Labour’s leader is and the questions over their manifesto and stance on Brexit, they’re struggling too.

Have the two main parties ever been this much of a mess?
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No

Had the Labour Party elected David Miliband instead of his brother,we'd have had many years of a Labour government by now.
 
Ric Glasgow said:
I like the part where they commit to carrying out the will of 17.4 million people who voted to leave the European Union.
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Ok.

But what else?

There must be more to it than that? Unless you're super healthy and are well above the poverty line.
 
City Man said:
Wjhat happened in the 70s has not necessarily any import 50 years later.

But I recall the miners bringing down Ted Heath's democratically elected govt in the winter of 73/74, the three day weeks because of lack of power, the power cuts affecting West Hull which started at 8pm, candles at the ready and wrap up warm, HRI on emergency generators, schools closed, kids sent home to cold houses. City v Liverpool on a Tuesday afternoon, NI v ESP on a Wednesday afternoon. Hey but you know what ? We survived no blubbing.

Then towards the end of that decade, inflation at around 20% , life savings ****ed in a matter of months, firemen's strikes, binmen strikes, gravediggers strikes (Bring out your dead, no hang on, don't!), and the IMF telling us to **** off when we went cap in hand to them.

It was equally **** for most people as I recall, hence Baroness Thatcher got elected.

Like I say, that was then but this is now....
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And, on the insistence of the IMF the only reduction in the NHS budget (as opposed to not getting as much as they wanted and calling that a cut). I remember one broadcast from a Miner’s Welfare Club where some miners and their wives, who were about the size of Dawn French, saying they wouldn’t be starved into submission. One miner must have cost Labour a lot of votes when he sneered, when asked about people accepting wage settlements “ Who is accepting these settlements? People who don’t matter like nurses...”.
 
pierredelafranchesca said:
What about the fact that the majority of the cabinet, including Johnson, have in the past repeatedly voted down withdrawal agreements that would've seen us leave the EU?
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What about Corbyn who voted against the EEC and the EU over 50 times and said it was a globalist, capitalist enterprise he wanted no part of?
 
Barchullona said:
It is more a case of what I don’t like. Of course no one is sneering at the Tories, are they! Oh no.

Something positive? I am positive that Corbyn , Abbott, McDonnell and others are incompetent , useless twats who would ruin the country. I just wish there was someone more competent than Johnson leading the Tories as I don’t hold him in high regard,
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Can’t help yourself
Such a shame
 
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If the top 5% of tax payers will pay for the proposed Labour spending, two questions, what proportion of overall tax do that 5% contribute to all tax revenue and second, how long before that 5% leave the UK therefore increasing the burden of committed spending to other people...?
 
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Barchullona said:
Jamaica and Kazakhstan. <laugh> How about Germany, France and similar countries to ours not ones in the same league or stage of economic development.
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Those were just the worst hit ones, all nations that use the dollar as a reserve currency were affected by the crash. It was a global recession, it wasn't just us.
 
TIGERSCAVE said:
If the top 5% of tax payers will pay for the proposed Labour spending, two questions, what proportion of overall tax do that 5% contribute to all tax revenue and second, how long before that 5% leave the UK therefore increasing the burden of committed spending to other people...?
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Most people can’t just up and leave though can they? Job, family, home? That stands for people earning 80k or 100k as much as anyone.
 
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