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True.

But I'd have thought raising children from poverty, investing in education (and the pupil premium for arts), closing the gap on inequality etc etc would appeal to anyone.

But as we've seen from some, they just care about the money in their back pocket more than a better society.

Probably, but I'd need to have confidence they had the skills set do it, and be satisfied they don't squander it on nonsense, as the unions do with their funds.
 
There are people like spook and PLT who are easily influenced and love buying in to this extreme sort of bollocks.

It's eerily similar to jihadism, on the complete opposite side of the spectrum.

It should not be shared or encouraged.
Sorry you're right, we shouldn't really express views that don't conform to the mainstream.
 
Thatcherism for you mate.

Look at some of those who on here who reckon they were staunch Labour, yet quibble about paying a few quid more for the common good.

They'd rather kids be in poverty, schools and the NHS failing - and have a few extra quid in their bank.
Wow. Must be quite comforting having such a simple almost childlike view of society as you do.
 
Probably, but I'd need to have confidence they had the skills set do it, and be satisfied they don't squander it on nonsense, as the unions do with their funds.

Give them a chance then mate - that's the only way you'll find out.

If they renege or fail, then I'll be the first to admit it.
 
Thatcherism for you mate.

Look at some of those who on here who reckon they were staunch Labour, yet quibble about paying a few quid more for the common good.

They'd rather kids be in poverty, schools and the NHS failing - and have a few extra quid in their bank.
Oh I know !!!!The council house sell off was a massive catalyst for a more Freudian less caring , think of one's self society.
 
The claim that she doesn't debate isn't strictly accurate. It's more correct to say that she doesn't see public debates with politicians as meaningful or productive, instead choosing to answer questions from the electorate.

Having seen some of the politicians point scoring off each other, she has a point.

My apologies. I was thinking more in terms of pulling out of the Women's Hour interview and refusing to be interviewed by Jon Snow rather than the leadership debate. I think Corbyn changing his mind wasn't too clever.
 
Give them a chance then mate - that's the only way you'll find out.

If they renege or fail, then I'll be the first to admit it.

It's not the only way to find out. Their past actions are a guide too.

One bloke seemingly doing well preaching to the converted (short term) hardly makes his party the new messiahs.
 
In Hull, across the city - people of all ages enthused by Corbyn - although a mass young contingent present.

Corbyn turns up with no or little security and anyone can come. He chats to anyone afterwards too.

May hides away, evades, speaks in cliches, platitudes and soundbites - embarrassing.
Probably because a Tory voter might heckle corbyn but a labour militant might blow up the stage or throw a petrol bomb. Savages.
 
It's not the only way to find out. There past actions are a guide too.

One bloke seemingly doing well preaching to the converted hardly makes his party the new messiahs.

Their actions are unproven.
 
Lab/Con- both shafted the electorate re the EU.
Blair and co enthusiastically opened the floodgates to hundreds of thousands of hungry Eastern European workers.

Thanks for that.
Ironic isn't it that a big Remoaner **** like Blair is one of the main culprits for people voting Leave?
But then a bright lad like you knew that already eh?

I hate the EU. It's a capitalist neoliberal institution and you won't see me defending it after what it's done to the Greek working-class. I just find it ironic that right-wing Brexiters wanted to 'get rid of the EU elite' but are happy with a carbon copy in Westminster because they're British.
 
Thatcherism for you mate.

Look at some of those who on here who reckon they were staunch Labour, yet quibble about paying a few quid more for the common good.

They'd rather kids be in poverty, schools and the NHS failing - and have a few extra quid in their bank.
Yes, good to see the likes of the Abbopotamus setting an example and leading from the front by sending her kids to the local comp. ****, WTF am I saying?, of course she didn't !!!!
 
It always gets twisted into somehow being about funding the unemployed. Fact is, high earners have been enabled by governments for some time now to pay less and less tax whilst at the same time funding for all sorts of things that benefit everyone (such as below examples) is no longer available, or just pittance remains -

- Infrastructure
- NHS
- Policing
- Transport
- Education
- Environment protection
- Housing

I'm sure I missed lots out, that was just off the top of my head.

We're at the point now where current and future generations simply do not have the same opportunities that previous ones did. If you're lucky enough to be born into a rich family then you might be ok, but many millions of people are not.

People are waking up and realising that a rebalancing needs to take place, but it's a hard fight against biased press & politicians who themselves gain from this.

In my opinion.
 
I hate the EU. It's a capitalist neoliberal institution and you won't see me defending it after what it's done to the Greek working-class. I just find it ironic that right-wing Brexiters wanted to 'get rid of the EU elite' but are happy with a carbon copy in Westminster because they're British.

Who says they're right wing or happy with the Government?

It's too simplistic to try to pigeon hole and bracket people like that.

"Education is an admirable thing, but it is well to remember from time to time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught."
 
Yes, good to see the likes of the Abbopotamus setting an example and leading from the front by sending her kids to the local comp. ****, WTF am I saying?, of course she didn't !!!!

The first person of this campaign to weaponise The Abbott.

You'll start banging on about the IRA next.
 
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