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Have they ****e. 35% was never attainable they’ve just gone for the first thing the reps have thrown at them, that’s why it’s wrapped up already.
But likewise, pointless convo with voters up here who’ll always vote labour no matter what.

Meanwhile, a few weeks ago on this very thread ...

Oh, I’m not arsed in the slightest if I’m honest to me it’s a vote of whether your favourite colour is red or blue!
I’d always give whoever came in or whatever was implemented a chance. The UK needs solidarity not more infighting. More than can be said for those who continually tried to disrupt and drag their heels with Brexit!

As you've said, it's a pointless conversation ...

... that I'm certain you'll continue <laugh>

I won't, have fun.
 
Very disappointed to see the govt cancel the cap on social care cost. This is an area of our society that needs help. It is reported to generate a saving of £1bn by scrapping it. Not sure that is at all worth it.

I have to say I am disappointed, but not surprised, by this so called black hole stuff. It is spin in my opinion. The same spin every time a new party comes to power. The last lot were even worse than we thought. Etc etc. Labour were told, in no uncertain terms, their manifesto was not affordable and uncosted. All other parties the same. They ignored it and campaigned regardless. Now there is a handy headline to hide behind and do stuff they said they wouldnt. I just wish politicians wouldnt take us for fools. This country needs more money, just tax us who can pay a bit more for crying out loud and do it now. Dont hide behind spin, just do the right thing and do it with a bit more respect for our intelligence.
It's no secret that the country needs more money. No matter who won the election would have to find ways to raise it. From the moment they came to power, Labour have been dancing round the fact that taxes will be raised or the public will feel the pinch in some other way. Its problem that the country has to solve together, party allegiances play no part in it- we're all affected by it. So the adversarial politics doesn't help anyone.
 
Yeah Rooch, it was announced yesterday as part of an initial spending review. The winter fuel payment will only be paid to those on pension credit and other means tested benefits
Cheers mate. Common sense really,
My mate got it next door. ( moved now ) and that house is 1.5 million. He couldn’t get them to give it to someone else.
 
Start of what ?

Dealing with the mess of the last 14 years? The public sector getting rightly treated with decency and conditions?

I am here for all of that.
:emoticon-0152-heart Agreed. Twitter etc rife with “that’s miles above inflation” but completely forget that the tories, over the past. 14 years, have only once given a pay rise above inflation to the nhs. And for 3 of those years we got no pay rise
 
Leeds has been burning. Police officers attacked in an airport and now children being stabbed. Looks like society has gone backwards and lost all control since Starmer has been in charge @Blond Bombshell

Also gotta laugh at Labour attacking the pensioners again. Done it last time too lol.
 
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It was plainly obvious to me, that Labour would have to raise money if elected.

It also should have been made clear, either in their manifesto or when asked by reporters.
I see both sides of the winter fuel payment argument.
As pensioners, it is an added bonus at the time, can l live without it, yes l can, but l would remind you that there are many many who cannot.
I look forward to global warming to keep my heating cost down. :emoticon-0104-surpr
 
It was plainly obvious to me, that Labour would have to raise money if elected.

It also should have been made clear, either in their manifesto or when asked by reporters.
I see both sides of the winter fuel payment argument.
As pensioners, it is an added bonus at the time, can l live without it, yes l can, but l would remind you that there are many many who cannot.
I look forward to global warming to keep my heating cost down. :emoticon-0104-surpr
Global warming?? I had to have my heating on in July this year for the first time in my adult life! Ridiculously cold early in the month (8 degrees outside at one point!!)
 
Global warming?? I had to have my heating on in July this year for the first time in my adult life! Ridiculously cold early in the month (8 degrees outside at one point!!)

Wish I had that problem, new builds are frigging ridiculously warm all year round. Bedroom is on top floor of townhouse and is currently 25.2% degrees rarely seems to drop below about 23.
 
Global warming?? I had to have my heating on in July this year for the first time in my adult life! Ridiculously cold early in the month (8 degrees outside at one point!!)

Wow! That is cold, when l am busking in 28 deg in NN8 right now.

Wish I had that problem, new builds are frigging ridiculously warm all year round. Bedroom is on top floor of townhouse and is currently 25.2% degrees rarely seems to drop below about 23.

Ours is an old property, cool inside on a day like today, but keep reasonable warm in the winter.
 
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Wow! That is cold, when l am busking in 28 deg in NN8 right now.



Ours is an old property, cool inside on a day like today, but keep reasonable warm in the winter.
I’ve over insulated mine<doh> so the heat can’t get in summer so it’s bloody cold, then when I put the log burner on in winter the heat can’t get out so you are sitting in your pants<laugh><laugh>, mind I did go overboard on the burner <laugh><laugh>
 
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It's no secret that the country needs more money. No matter who won the election would have to find ways to raise it. From the moment they came to power, Labour have been dancing round the fact that taxes will be raised or the public will feel the pinch in some other way. Its problem that the country has to solve together, party allegiances play no part in it- we're all affected by it. So the adversarial politics doesn't help anyone.

The adversarial politics system is broken mate,beyond repair. The problems we face have been compounded by decades of abjectly weak rule.
Much of what Reeves was mouthing about yesterday harks back to Blair. Cameron and his treason simply made it worse,before the Tory selfies imploded themselves.
Things will be no different in 5 years time......Govt. of this persuasion or any other hasn't a clue.
Welcome UK to a continuation of your perennial misery.
 
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I’ve over insulated mine<doh> so the heat can’t get in summer so it’s bloody cold, then when I put the log burner on in winter the heat can’t get out so you are sitting in your pants<laugh><laugh>, mind I did go overboard on the burner <laugh><laugh>
That’s why there are no trees around your house any more
 
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