Worth a response when Smug said he was only having a bit of fun. I had read his first post otherwise. So I responded to make good.So you're not "leaving it at that"...
Hope that is ok with you mate?
Worth a response when Smug said he was only having a bit of fun. I had read his first post otherwise. So I responded to make good.So you're not "leaving it at that"...
It is, I luckily read the whole thread before replying to your Labour didn't win post. I was about to ask you to name the malt.Worth a response when Smug said he was only having a bit of fun. I had read his first post otherwise. So I responded to make good.
Hope that is ok with you mate?
I take things too personally sometimes mate.It is, I luckily read the whole thread before replying to your Labour didn't win post. I was about to ask you to name the malt.
ToremoanersIt is, I luckily read the whole thread before replying to your Labour didn't win post. I was about to ask you to name the malt.
Smaller % of the vote than under Corbyn? Sure I read that somewhere.
Hard to claim a Labour win for me, it is much more about and absolute fall off from conservative and snp. That is the system though. The question is whether we are going to keep accepting it.
Think turnout has an impact. If we use PR the I haven't voted party are probably now in chargeThat's correct, regarding Corbyn, maybe the low turnout has made the difference.
The turnout reflects that people are dissatisfied with the political parties and the system.
With a majority that big, they won't rock that boat.
I think we all do marra, but don't care to admit it.I take things too personally sometimes mate.
Had a drop of Macallan last night and said my own goodbyes to the recent incarnation of the tories.
For full transparency this morning I have written an email to my new Labour MP. I have been trying to get some attention on the state of local grass community pitches and the outgoing tory MP was paying some attention. I was even polite to him and said congratulations![]()
I agree that the way politics is working at the moment isn't quite right. I've said earlier what I would do to change things. I think if people thought about it differently, we'd different outcomes but within the sort of safety net that we already have.I think that is a fair point. I voted Lib Dem and our seat numbers far exceeded vote share. But, it really isnt about me and my vote tbh. How do all those who genuinely want the green party get their voice heard in the current FPTP system? I couldnt be further from the Reform party views, but 14% of folk voted for their message. On a personal level I do not want them in parliament. An alternative view though would be to keep your enemies close. Perhaps if they had more of a voice, folk would see how unreasonable they are and they will die a quicker death as a party than than they may now do banging this drum of representation.
One of my big gripes about our current political system is the lack of balance in the debate. It is setup to be a 2 party debate. Leader v opposition leader etc etc. We see it all the time, in every element of the political discourse. This time it will be parties with 40% of the vote not having much of a voice. Turnout this election is the lowest in over 29 years. After the last years of Tory rule you would think it would be one of the highest. I think there may well be a correlation between turnout and feeling your vote wont count.
This election is by far the worst for the gap between vote share and seats. It is more than double what it was in 2019. It appears to be the worst in history. Worth a consideration in my opinion as to whether there is a better way.
Smaller % of the vote than under Corbyn? Sure I read that somewhere.
Hard to claim a Labour win for me, it is much more about and absolute fall off from conservative and snp. That is the system though. The question is whether we are going to keep accepting it.
In charge of policy or something, I think. And a ceremonial role in administration of the estates of the Duchy of Lancaster.Looking at the new cabinet, foreign secretary, home secretary, chancellor, etc I know what they're responsible for, but wtf is the chancellor of the duchy of Lancaster?
Be interesting to see how much time he actually spends in the House, particularly in November. His attendance as an MEP was woeful.One good thing about Farage being in the House of Commons is he’ll keep kier and co honest and on their toes regarding illegal immigration
Absolutely! I was initially sceptical about Starmer but he has been just the steady hand that Labour needed. He flip flops a bit too much for my liking but he is intelligent and shrewd. His speeches since becoming PM have been impressive as well. Injecting quiet optimism into the country while not making big promises.I know Starmer has only been in the job for a couple of days but the fears of him being boring are looking like being true. I mean, there hasn't been a sniff of any extramarital affairs resulting in abortions or illegitimate offspring. He has not rode any zipwires wearing a Union Jack waistcoat to the best of my knowledge. Not once has he spoke in Latin or quoted Greek mythology. There has been no hiding in fridges, no giving Knighthoods to Russian criminals, or any handing million pound contracts to friends and family. As far as I am aware he hasn't told any lies and there have been no holidays in the Carribean on Labour Party donors yachts. It just isn't good enough![]()
One good thing about Farage being in the House of Commons is he’ll keep kier and co honest and on their toes regarding illegal immigration
Absolutely! I was initially sceptical about Starmer but he has been just the steady hand that Labour needed. He flip flops a bit too much for my liking but he is intelligent and shrewd. His speeches since becoming PM have been impressive as well. Injecting quiet optimism into the country while not making big promises.