Gary Lineker

[Bure budgie]

Lineker and his cronies can't wait to get back to work.
In breach of contract imo,but BBC have no balls to sack them.
If it was me or you, refusing to work, we would be shown the door.

 

[RiverEndRick]

Lineker and his cronies can't wait to get back to work.
In breach of contract imo,but BBC have no balls to sack them.
If it was me or you, refusing to work, we would be shown the door.

When did Lineker ever refuse to work, Bure? He was suspended by the BBC pending an enquiry. His 'cronies' as you call them, withdrew their participation as they are entitled to do as free-lance presenters. None of them are BBC employees, so contractural obligations are limited either way. The Beeb bigwigs were too eager to jump to do the government's bidding and have paid the price for that.

 

[Bure budgie]

What price have the BBC paid?

The only people to "pay", as you put it, are me and you ie licence payers

Personally I would have got rid of most of them, Lineker, Shearer, Wright, would be 1st to go, and if they are freelance, as you imply, Great, no cost to the licence payer.

 

[Robbie BB]

...........The Beeb bigwigs were too eager to jump to do the government's bidding and have paid the price for that.

Have you a shred of evidence that the government were involved in any way with the BBC's decision to suspend Lineker?

 

[GozoCanary]

Have you a shred of evidence that the government were involved in any way with the BBC's decision to suspend Lineker?

He didn't say the government were involved in the decision. He said that the BBC were too keen to do what they imagined the government wanted them to do.

 

[RiverEndRick]

Have you a shred of evidence that the government were involved in any way with the BBC's decision to suspend Lineker?

Gozo is right about what I meant. It's no coincidence that the BBC Chairman, who is a Tory party donor and who helped arrange a loan for Boris a week before he was appointed by Boris, and the Director General, who stood as a Tory candidate in Hammersmith and then became deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative Association, are those making the decisions. Decide for yourself about just how impartial they are.

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

I live not far from Ipswich & the Government decided without consultation with the residents, Tom Hunt the local MP or the council that they would dump refugees that paid people smuggling gangs from France on boats on the town.

The Best Western Hotel & the largest hotel in the town Novotel have been block booked indefinitely, hundreds more housed through private landlords in the town with the government paying all the utilities.

All the staff at the hotels were let go and replaced , the local businesses that rely on footfall from the 100 plus guests at Novotel don't get the footfall of paying customers anymore, just loitering which scares off even more business.


They are all men in their 20s mainly from Albania , they are given a hotel 3 meals a day and prepaid credit cards at our expense.

When you go into the town centre these men , wearing tracksuits or skinny jeans brand new trainers and identical short haircuts which they must get every week .
Gather in large groups, girls and women are being harassed and intimidated.
On top of the enormous Roma community that legally moved into Ipswich & the Kurdish that dominate the St Matthews area, the town has completely changed it doesn't resemble an English town .
Mainly barber shops & convenience stores.

Most people that defend Gary on this thread don't even live in England anymore, they just like to feel morally superior too.

Gary lives in a rich 90% plus white part of London he doesn't need to deal with our asylum seeking guests .

Lot's of ordinary English families are dealing with their towns being used as dumping grounds & any questions or criticism is met with childish slurs & being compared to German fascists of the 1930s.

These labels have lost their power as their main use is to shut down any sensible discussion regarding immigration, branding anyone with genuine concerns as a Nazi .

I don't think most people have an issue with legal migration, i have neighbours that came from India to work for BT & the NHS , they need to apply for a work visa their kids go to school locally & if they choose to they can apply for indefinite residency here .

It's the people that illegally enter the country & cost tax payers millions per day to feed & house , as well as bringing crime with them.

Most of the convenience shops , barbers & car washers are fronts to launder money from organised crime.

Comparing this disastrous situation to 1930s Germany is pathetic especially from a BBC sports ball commentator that is supposed to be politically neutral .
If he worked for Sky then paying customers could cancel their subscriptions or advertisers could pull funding .

BBC licence fee holders have to pay or risk criminal action from the police if they boycott the BBC.

 

[Bure budgie]

I live not far from Ipswich & the Government decided without consultation with the residents, Tom Hunt the local MP or the council that they would dump refugees that paid people smuggling gangs from France on boats on the town.

The Best Western Hotel & the largest hotel in the town Novotel have been block booked indefinitely, hundreds more housed through private landlords in the town with the government paying all the utilities.

All the staff at the hotels were let go and replaced , the local businesses that rely on footfall from the 100 plus guests at Novotel don't get the footfall of paying customers anymore, just loitering which scares off even more business.


They are all men in their 20s mainly from Albania , they are given a hotel 3 meals a day and prepaid credit cards at our expense.

When you go into the town centre these men , wearing tracksuits or skinny jeans brand new trainers and identical short haircuts which they must get every week .
Gather in large groups, girls and women are being harassed and intimidated.
On top of the enormous Roma community that legally moved into Ipswich & the Kurdish that dominate the St Matthews area, the town has completely changed it doesn't resemble an English town .
Mainly barber shops & convenience stores.

Most people that defend Gary on this thread don't even live in England anymore, they just like to feel morally superior too.

Gary lives in a rich 90% plus white part of London he doesn't need to deal with our asylum seeking guests .

Lot's of ordinary English families are dealing with their towns being used as dumping grounds & any questions or criticism is met with childish slurs & being compared to German fascists of the 1930s.

These labels have lost their power as their main use is to shut down any sensible discussion regarding immigration, branding anyone with genuine concerns as a Nazi .

I don't think most people have an issue with legal migration, i have neighbours that came from India to work for BT & the NHS , they need to apply for a work visa their kids go to school locally & if they choose to they can apply for indefinite residency here .

It's the people that illegally enter the country & cost tax payers millions per day to feed & house , as well as bringing crime with them.

Most of the convenience shops , barbers & car washers are fronts to launder money from organised crime.

Comparing this disastrous situation to 1930s Germany is pathetic especially from a BBC sports ball commentator that is supposed to be politically neutral .
If he worked for Sky then paying customers could cancel their subscriptions or advertisers could pull funding .

BBC licence fee holders have to pay or risk criminal action from the police if they boycott the BBC.

Good post Dunc

 

[RiverEndRick]

What price have the BBC paid?

The only people to "pay", as you put it, are me and you ie licence payers

Personally I would have got rid of most of them, Lineker, Shearer, Wright, would be 1st to go, and if they are freelance, as you imply, Great, no cost to the licence payer.

The price was having to back down and apologise for the stripped down version of MotD and launch an 'independent' inquiry into to their own impartiality policies.

 

[Robbie BB]

Gozo is right about what I meant. It's no coincidence that the BBC Chairman, who is a Tory party donor and who helped arrange a loan for Boris a week before he was appointed by Boris, and the Director General, who stood as a Tory candidate in Hammersmith and then became deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative Association, are those making the decisions. Decide for yourself about just how impartial they are.

None of that constitutes a shred of evidence supporting your original post. You are politicising something for which there is a much more plausible and straightforward explanation, namely that the BBC has a reputation to protect founded on their commitment to unbiased reporting. Maintaining that perception is fundamental, not only to the trust placed in the Corporation worldwide, but also to their status as the UK's public service broadcaster. That's why BBC contracts contain the impartiality clauses they do, which other freelance presenters respect and which Lineker has chosen to ignore, and why the BBC had no alternative but to take action. You can debate the wisdom of the particular action they took, but action of some sort they had to take.

 

[1950canary]

In Europe any immigrant from Albania is sent straight back - the UK could do the same but can't be bothered to set up the system. Afghan refugees and refugees from places like Iraq who wish to stay in Europe are processed properly and quickly. The UK do not set up legal routes for these people and when, because of this, they have to rely on people smugglers to get here your Government want to treat them as criminals because they can't be bothered to set up a proper system and instead they want to send them to Rwanda with no right of return to the UK. The UK know that what they are proposing is against International Law and common decency but it stirs up the public to support them in an inhumane act and get them elected. Do people seriously believe that German people went from peacefully living with Jewish Communities in the 1920's to sending them to the Gas Chambers in the 1940's on a whim. It was because Hitler drip fed them a lot of hatred towards the Jews in the 1930's making out that they were somehow an inferior race and a drain on the economy. Your Government should set up proper systems to deal with refugees, who are fellow human beings, properly but they would rather spend the money on hotels in the knowledge that this will stir up local feelings against these people and improve their party in the polls. Quite clearly it is working and I find a lot of the posts on here absolutely disgusting. The BBC have realised that they got the situation completely wrong and have backed down and I am sure that aspect will now fade away but the policy of your Government and the rantings of your right wing media is beginning to work. Economic migrants should he sent straight back but genuine refugees should be treated for what they are - desperate fellow human beings. I thought Le Pen was bad enough but what I am reading now from the UK, including on here, makes her sound like a leftie.

 

[ncgandy]

In Europe any immigrant from Albania is sent straight back - the UK could do the same but can't be bothered to set up the system. Afghan refugees and refugees from places like Iraq who wish to stay in Europe are processed properly and quickly. The UK do not set up legal routes for these people and when, because of this, they have to rely on people smugglers to get here your Government want to treat them as criminals because they can't be bothered to set up a proper system and instead they want to send them to Rwanda with no right of return to the UK. The UK know that what they are proposing is against International Law and common decency but it stirs up the public to support them in an inhumane act and get them elected. Do people seriously believe that German people went from peacefully living with Jewish Communities in the 1920's to sending them to the Gas Chambers in the 1940's on a whim. It was because Hitler drip fed them a lot of hatred towards the Jews in the 1930's making out that they were somehow an inferior race and a drain on the economy. Your Government should set up proper systems to deal with refugees, who are fellow human beings, properly but they would rather spend the money on hotels in the knowledge that this will stir up local feelings against these people and improve their party in the polls. Quite clearly it is working and I find a lot of the posts on here absolutely disgusting. The BBC have realised that they got the situation completely wrong and have backed down and I am sure that aspect will now fade away but the policy of your Government and the rantings of your right wing media is beginning to work. Economic migrants should he sent straight back but genuine refugees should be treated for what they are - desperate fellow human beings. I thought Le Pen was bad enough but what I am reading now from the UK, including on here, makes her sound like a leftie.

Thanks 1950, excellent explanation, and not one straight out of the Daily Mail. Agree entirely.

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

In Europe any immigrant from Albania is sent straight back - the UK could do the same but can't be bothered to set up the system. Afghan refugees and refugees from places like Iraq who wish to stay in Europe are processed properly and quickly. The UK do not set up legal routes for these people and when, because of this, they have to rely on people smugglers to get here your Government want to treat them as criminals because they can't be bothered to set up a proper system and instead they want to send them to Rwanda with no right of return to the UK. The UK know that what they are proposing is against International Law and common decency but it stirs up the public to support them in an inhumane act and get them elected. Do people seriously believe that German people went from peacefully living with Jewish Communities in the 1920's to sending them to the Gas Chambers in the 1940's on a whim. It was because Hitler drip fed them a lot of hatred towards the Jews in the 1930's making out that they were somehow an inferior race and a drain on the economy. Your Government should set up proper systems to deal with refugees, who are fellow human beings, properly but they would rather spend the money on hotels in the knowledge that this will stir up local feelings against these people and improve their party in the polls. Quite clearly it is working and I find a lot of the posts on here absolutely disgusting. The BBC have realised that they got the situation completely wrong and have backed down and I am sure that aspect will now fade away but the policy of your Government and the rantings of your right wing media is beginning to work. Economic migrants should he sent straight back but genuine refugees should be treated for what they are - desperate fellow human beings. I thought Le Pen was bad enough but what I am reading now from the UK, including on here, makes her sound like a leftie.

Can you explain why a genuine asylum seeker from Afghanistan or Iraq would need to leave France on a boat to come to England to be safe ?

The UK & USA illegally invaded & bombed both countries with sexed up dossiers from Campbell about fictitious Weapons of mass destruction and Bin Laden hiding in caves .

I wouldn't want to stay there either .

Blair completely destabilised the region and murdered millions of people as well as displacing them from their homes.
Leaving both countries in ruins after stealing their resources & wasting billions of tax payers money as well as killing our servicemen in pointless wars for greed.

Utterly revolting, but France is not at war and neither are the other European countries these genuine refugees passed through.

We live on an Island & welcome millions of immigrants to visit or make the UK their home through legal channels, our guests are responsible for renewing their visas & paying for their own accommodation.
Refugees are provided for from the generosity & kindness of the tax payers .

This new pathway where human traffickers sell places on boats to the highest bidder & are allowed to operate from France, assisted as they are given an escort into British waters is a recent phenomenon.


The hyperbole over Hitler is pathetic, Jewish people weren't trying to get into Germany on boats they were trying to leave for God's sake .

The comparison is Utterly abhorrent, Sunak & Bravermann aren't treating refugees like Jews gping to German gas chambers ,get a grip on reality.

And before you call me a heartless Tory Nazi too , I detest the bloody Conservative party as much as I do the opposition.

 

[GozoCanary]

The strategy has worked. Instead of talking about working people having to go to foodbanks, or lack of goods in the supermarket, or ballooning energy costs which are forcing people to choose between heating and eating, or the endless succession of financial and sexual scandals involving our government, or the enquiry into Johnson's behaviour during the Covid period, or the government trying to make it more difficult for poor people to vote and gerrymandering the updated constituences, and so on and so on, here we are arguing about hotels being used to house immigrants.

I agree with 1950. The government have no intention of trying to solve this problem through practical measures that might actually work because it is politically useful for them to keep the problem alive.

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

The hotels full of mainly chancers & Albanian criminals are completely insignificant if you don't live near one .

Gary certainly doesn't & many on here defending their rights don't either, most don't even live in the same country .

I should either shut up for the sake of diversity or move .

The problem is this is my home, I already moved away from Newham as it's not a safe place now to raise a family.
I just don't go into the Ipswich Town centre anymore instead I stay in the suburbs & order everything from Amazon.

Anyone that thinks this Government wants to actually reduce immigration or that spending £7m a day housing mainly undesirables in 4 star hotels is a cunning ploy to get working class people voting for the Conservatives again is dillusional.

Our country & it's political class have sold us out .

The solution Starmer offers is that we just let anyone claim asylum here from France & worry about where we house them later or how we pay for it .
Just print more money.

The reason the hotels are being filled is because there isn't any extra housing to put both legal or illegal migrants already , the army barracks used before were torched by the guests or deemed inhumane.
Schools , hospitals, GP's, dentists etc can't cope already.

Offering asylum seekers even the failed ones free everything doesn't help.
We already fly Ukrainian & Afghan genuine refugees in from their own countries, we can't house everyone in the World just because they want to move here , that's impracticable & Btitish people are already a minority in London & Many other city's.

We are in massive debt from the Covid debacle inflation is rising due to wreckless money printing but theres always a few more billion to spend on asylum seekers & wars .

The psychopaths in charge want to distract from Hancock & the Government admitting that covid was a scam where they purposely terrified us idiots into staying home for 2 years with the promise that they would hand back some freedom if we take experimental deadly injections.

Well done Gary for squashing that scandal .

Nobody Is talking about Hancock deploying the new variants anymore, it's much easier to just yell Nazi at each other .

I didn't give a **** about Roma ghettos or hotels full of Albanian gangs until these people were dumped in my community, & I'm moving to a nice English speaking town or village to complain about all those horrid racists that do .

That seems to be the solution.

 

[RiverEndRick]

Agree completely with both 1950 and Gozo that the 'crisis' could be solved, or at least reduced if the processing centres were to be properly staffed and funded. In particular the Albanians coming here not as genuine refugees could be promptly dealt with and returned to Albania. Why aren't they? Instead the government declares that everybody arriving by boats will be denied access for life, even if they are genuine refugees under international law. The government could do it legally and decently but it refuses to do so for its own reasons.

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

All Albanians need to do is throw their passports in the sea & pretend to be from somewhere else , once they arrive there's an army of human rights lawyers that we pay to block deportations.

The reason they don't stay in France is because they aren't given anything.

 

[NorthCityCanary]

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Can you explain why a genuine asylum seeker from Afghanistan or Iraq would need to leave France on a boat to come to England to be safe ?

Their families are already here?
English is spoken, or at least tentatively learnt in many countries and is easier to learn/develop/speak compared to say French, Flemmish, German.
They have skills which we require (contrary to Govt. assertions), that the native Brit CBA to utilise to benefit the country, because 'reasons'.


Lest not forget February 2023 (?) a holocaust survivor challenged Home Sec over her language:

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[DUNCAN DONUTS]

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Their families are already here?
English is spoken, or at least tentatively learnt in many countries and is easier to learn/develop/speak compared to say French, Flemmish, German.
They have skills which we require (contrary to Govt. assertions), that the native Brit CBA to utilise to benefit the country, because 'reasons'.


Lest not forget February 2023 (?) a holocaust survivor challenged Home Sec over her language:

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So if one Iraqi refugee has 30 family members will they be invited in too ?

I thought the war In Iraq ended in 2011 , surely the young fit Iraqi men are needed back home ?

As for the poor holocaust survivor, I don't think Germany should be allowed a military ever again let alone rule the EUROPEAN UNION

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

I have family members killed in the second World War my father was sent away as a 3 year old so he wouldn't get bombed by German planes .

I have zero responsibility for the actions of the Germans and even less responsibility for what that immigration MP says .

Her parents came from India in the 1960s perhaps they weren't effected by WW2