The Germans aren't as ****ing crackers as the English. Still, if you limit the number of people in any area and let everyone know that acting like an idiot will get you barred, I think it would be fine. The clubs would need a fairly serious motivation to engage in a several year pissing match with whoever issues them their safety certificates, though. Newcastle doesn't have that motivation. If it comes back I would expect it to be spearheaded by a London or midlands club that is hovering on the borders of administration and needs the cash.
Gallowgate or Leazes?
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The Germans aren't as ****ing crackers as the English. Still, if you limit the number of people in any area and let everyone know that acting like an idiot will get you barred, I think it would be fine. The clubs would need a fairly serious motivation to engage in a several year pissing match with whoever issues them their safety certificates, though. Newcastle doesn't have that motivation. If it comes back I would expect it to be spearheaded by a London or midlands club that is hovering on the borders of administration and needs the cash.
as someone said how it safe to stand at lower league games and then becomes dangerous if the team gets promoted?
Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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Bigger crowds likely. Can't see any harm in the first couple of tiers of the Gallowgate and Leazes end being turned into standing areas though.
It's a generation thing for me.
I was a Leazes Ender in the 70's and there was nothing like it.
It was the main end for decades until the useless b's demolished it.
I'll never forget nights like the LC Semi win against Spurs where it was rocking beyond anything I'd seen before.
I seem to remember the last match being against Leicester, but I couldn't find anything on it.
But I came across this when I was looking:
'Geordie folklore has it that all true Newcastle fans were born on the Leazes end of St.James’ Park. However, for younger generations of fans, their spiritual home was the uncovered terrace at the opposite end of the pitch – the Gallowgate End.'
Probably true for me.
I was a Leazes Ender in the 70's and there was nothing like it.
It was the main end for decades until the useless b's demolished it.
I'll never forget nights like the LC Semi win against Spurs where it was rocking beyond anything I'd seen before.
I seem to remember the last match being against Leicester, but I couldn't find anything on it.
But I came across this when I was looking:
'Geordie folklore has it that all true Newcastle fans were born on the Leazes end of St.James’ Park. However, for younger generations of fans, their spiritual home was the uncovered terrace at the opposite end of the pitch – the Gallowgate End.'
Probably true for me.
Apparently, 19 of the Premier League teams are in favour of safe standing.
I wonder which one was isn't.
The German methods are well tried and work well and in reality there's no reason why they couldn't be adopted in England.
They are easily changed back to seated areas to take account of UEFA games.
I wonder which one was isn't.
The German methods are well tried and work well and in reality there's no reason why they couldn't be adopted in England.
They are easily changed back to seated areas to take account of UEFA games.
This is from wiki with German methods.
Bolt-on seats
Several clubs adapt their grounds to UEFA all-seater requirements by bolting temporary seats to the steps of otherwise essentially conventional terraces and removing the crush barriers. After the UEFA match, the seats are then removed again and the barriers put back. Stadia that operate in this way include those of Schalke 04, Borussia Dortmund and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
Fold-away seats
A small number of clubs adapt to the UEFA requirements by using seats that fold away under aluminium terrace steps. For domestic games such areas look like conventional terraces with intermittent crush barriers. For UEFA games the barriers are removed, the aluminium steps folded back and the seats flipped up. After the UEFA game, the procedure is reversed. German clubs using fold-away seats are Hamburg SV, VfB Stuttgart and Fortuna Düsseldorf.
Rail seats
Rail seats in Klagenfurt, Austria
Almost half of the top-flight Bundesliga clubs convert standing areas to all-seater configuration by using rail seats. Each metal seat is incorporated within a robust metal frame that forms a waist-high rail for the spectators in the row behind. These seat frames are installed on a permanent basis with the same spacing as standard seats. The frames interlock to form a continuous high-strength rail along the full length of each row. Rail heights vary between 90 and 115 cm.[16] For domestic games the seats remain locked flush between the uprights of each frame, thus providing accommodation and maximum space for standing fans between rows of the waist-high rails. Prior to UEFA games, the seats are unlocked, thus transforming the area into all-seater configuration. After the UEFA game, the seats are locked again in the upright position ready for use by standing fans at the next domestic match. German clubs using rail seats include Werder Bremen, Hamburg SV, VfL Wolfsburg, Hannover 96, TSG 1899 Hoffenheim, VfB Stuttgart, Bayer Leverkusen and Borussia Dortmund.
Standing at seats
The Olympic Stadium in Berlin is an all-seater stadium.[citation needed] Standing at domestic games is permitted – and expected – in front of seats in designated standing areas. One standing fan is permitted per seat space. The Allianz Arena in Munich was originally built as an all-seater stadium with standing allowed – and expected – in front of seats in designated standing areas. Approximately 30% more fans are permitted in these areas when used for standing. This is possible due to the considerable depth of the rows in the Allianz Arena. The seats in two blocks of the home 'curve' are removed for domestic games to allow standing in a more open space.[citation needed] For UEFA games these seats are bolted back in place.
Its possible, the FA and Government just need the b**** to give it a go at one or two grounds as a trial.
Bolt-on seats
Several clubs adapt their grounds to UEFA all-seater requirements by bolting temporary seats to the steps of otherwise essentially conventional terraces and removing the crush barriers. After the UEFA match, the seats are then removed again and the barriers put back. Stadia that operate in this way include those of Schalke 04, Borussia Dortmund and Borussia Mönchengladbach.
Fold-away seats
A small number of clubs adapt to the UEFA requirements by using seats that fold away under aluminium terrace steps. For domestic games such areas look like conventional terraces with intermittent crush barriers. For UEFA games the barriers are removed, the aluminium steps folded back and the seats flipped up. After the UEFA game, the procedure is reversed. German clubs using fold-away seats are Hamburg SV, VfB Stuttgart and Fortuna Düsseldorf.
Rail seats
Rail seats in Klagenfurt, Austria
Almost half of the top-flight Bundesliga clubs convert standing areas to all-seater configuration by using rail seats. Each metal seat is incorporated within a robust metal frame that forms a waist-high rail for the spectators in the row behind. These seat frames are installed on a permanent basis with the same spacing as standard seats. The frames interlock to form a continuous high-strength rail along the full length of each row. Rail heights vary between 90 and 115 cm.[16] For domestic games the seats remain locked flush between the uprights of each frame, thus providing accommodation and maximum space for standing fans between rows of the waist-high rails. Prior to UEFA games, the seats are unlocked, thus transforming the area into all-seater configuration. After the UEFA game, the seats are locked again in the upright position ready for use by standing fans at the next domestic match. German clubs using rail seats include Werder Bremen, Hamburg SV, VfL Wolfsburg, Hannover 96, TSG 1899 Hoffenheim, VfB Stuttgart, Bayer Leverkusen and Borussia Dortmund.
Standing at seats
The Olympic Stadium in Berlin is an all-seater stadium.[citation needed] Standing at domestic games is permitted – and expected – in front of seats in designated standing areas. One standing fan is permitted per seat space. The Allianz Arena in Munich was originally built as an all-seater stadium with standing allowed – and expected – in front of seats in designated standing areas. Approximately 30% more fans are permitted in these areas when used for standing. This is possible due to the considerable depth of the rows in the Allianz Arena. The seats in two blocks of the home 'curve' are removed for domestic games to allow standing in a more open space.[citation needed] For UEFA games these seats are bolted back in place.
Its possible, the FA and Government just need the b**** to give it a go at one or two grounds as a trial.
That's something else to consider, however it shouldn't be too much of a problem if it's a designated standing area.
Truth to tell, I much prefer the comfort of sitting.
Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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Possibly is a generational thing by the sounds of it. Sounds like the 70's the Leazes may have been the main end listening to some on here. You head further back and it appears to be the Gallowgate. That stands to reason given Milburns favour of the Gallowgate End (had his ashes scattered there). Certainly when I started going in the late 80's it appeared to be the Gallowgate End.
Maybe there is no "main end" as such. It may not only be only generational but also personal to each individual. I think I'd fancy standing again provided it was gonna be jumping like it used to so you never get cold! Stewarding is easier as you don't get that "he's blocking my view by standing" argument. It was always littleuns at the front, bigguns at the back
Maybe there is no "main end" as such. It may not only be only generational but also personal to each individual. I think I'd fancy standing again provided it was gonna be jumping like it used to so you never get cold! Stewarding is easier as you don't get that "he's blocking my view by standing" argument. It was always littleuns at the front, bigguns at the back
I know you were. Loved it in the Gallowgate, young un's getting passed down the front overhead, banter, old half time score board. Only time I ever felt different was when Rangers came to town and as I was based in Rosyth with the navy the only tickets I could get were Rangers. For once in my life I became mute but still loved the atmosphere ( after dodging all sorts being thrown )
I remember getting passed down to the front and my legs and feet were bouncing all over the place and I caught one or two people on the back of the head on the way down. Good old bad old days.
Were the peanut sellers trained or self taught some would give Phil Taylor a run for his money?
Also can you remember the old supporters shop just up the road from the strawb?
The old Magpie clerb
The cop shop inside the gallowgate?
And finally the Spit n vomit on a warm match day
Apparently the old crooner himself, was seen belting it out on new year's day in the Black garterâ¦
Back in the day certain members of the Small penis clubâ¦used to chip in and make sure he never spent a penny on an away day.
Tommy Little White Bullâ¦has never been a man of means, but he is a gentlemen of character.
yip tommy does score for a canny freebies.
When he was outside the central selling papers I gave him some spare euro notes he looked at me as if I had robbed him lol He is actually a nice bloke as is his brother P.
When he was outside the central selling papers I gave him some spare euro notes he looked at me as if I had robbed him lol He is actually a nice bloke as is his brother P.
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