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129 DEAD,352 Injured,99 with life changing injuries.None of you know **** all about orthodox Islamic teachings.
That is quite clear to see
Set of bigots on the whole. It's about as much of a debate as you bigots deserve. Anything more and your brains would fizzle.
Europe's populist right targets migration after Paris attacks
http://www.financialexpress.com/art...targets-migration-after-paris-attacks/165669/
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Analysis: A third world war
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Well it's midday on Sunday and Spurlock has not answered my post late last night. If he smokes a joint he's playing at being a good Muslim, just like my mates in Egypt. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad most Muslims are just like him. They pay lip service to their faith and pick out the bits that suit them. That's fine, and even commendable.
But he's yet another example of a 'moderate' who sticks his fingers in his ears and says "ISIS as nothing to do with Islam". Almost without exception, mainstream Muslims refuse to even recognise that Islam is to blame for this violence. The Saudi public (even though many hate ISIS) acknowledge this in the survey I mentioned earlier - 92% of them agreeing that ISIS follow the tenets of Islam - in particular, the puritanical Wahhabi form of it favoured by ISIS and Saudis alike. When Spurlock asked me to post a link to the poll because he didn't believe it I did so and he dismissed it out of hand. Get the picture? If Muslims are being truthful they would say that Islam, even though it's in the Wahhabi form, is at the very core of ISIS. The clue is in the name, see. They are known to circulate Wahhabi textbooks in areas they control and its leaders have said that Wahhabi Islam is their credo - funny that, considering "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam".
Think about it. How do you think ISIS recruit so easily? There are over 100 suras in the Qur'an that are classed as 'violent' in some shape or form. All they have to do is pick up the book and point. Of course most Muslims in the world are good, decent, peaceful people. But until they firstly recognise that their religion has a big problem and come up with methods of helping the rest of us deal with the extremists they will continue to alienate themselves from the rest of us. Time for the so-called 'moderates' to speak out and pick a ****ing side because, as Brigitte Gabriel points out here, they are becoming increasingly irrelevant as it's the extremists that push the Islamist agenda. Apologies to those who've seen this before but it's excellent:
But he's yet another example of a 'moderate' who sticks his fingers in his ears and says "ISIS as nothing to do with Islam". Almost without exception, mainstream Muslims refuse to even recognise that Islam is to blame for this violence. The Saudi public (even though many hate ISIS) acknowledge this in the survey I mentioned earlier - 92% of them agreeing that ISIS follow the tenets of Islam - in particular, the puritanical Wahhabi form of it favoured by ISIS and Saudis alike. When Spurlock asked me to post a link to the poll because he didn't believe it I did so and he dismissed it out of hand. Get the picture? If Muslims are being truthful they would say that Islam, even though it's in the Wahhabi form, is at the very core of ISIS. The clue is in the name, see. They are known to circulate Wahhabi textbooks in areas they control and its leaders have said that Wahhabi Islam is their credo - funny that, considering "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam".
Think about it. How do you think ISIS recruit so easily? There are over 100 suras in the Qur'an that are classed as 'violent' in some shape or form. All they have to do is pick up the book and point. Of course most Muslims in the world are good, decent, peaceful people. But until they firstly recognise that their religion has a big problem and come up with methods of helping the rest of us deal with the extremists they will continue to alienate themselves from the rest of us. Time for the so-called 'moderates' to speak out and pick a ****ing side because, as Brigitte Gabriel points out here, they are becoming increasingly irrelevant as it's the extremists that push the Islamist agenda. Apologies to those who've seen this before but it's excellent:
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The only point you have rests on your headGoing quiet means nothing...apart from.....believe it or not..I'm busy...bless
I've made my point...go and do some real reading.
"Poland’s designated Europe minister said Warsaw could not take in refugees under an EU quota system after Friday’s wave of attacks on restaurants, a concert hall and a soccer stadium in Paris, in which 127 people died and some 200 were injured."
Well done Poland, and if I was Prime Minister, I'd ship all Muslims out of our country, without any hesitation........................
Well done Poland, and if I was Prime Minister, I'd ship all Muslims out of our country, without any hesitation........................
Phil that thing you said last night was awesome pity you deleted it mun !
The bits that were deleted by ? That I said is ok but did you like the tits ? I think they were lovely
The peaceful Muslims would be better off invading back to thier own countries of origin to help rebuild and save thier homelands rather than remain where they are not and under current conditions never be really welcome by the real natives !
The bits that were deleted by ? That I said is ok but did you like the tits ? I think they were lovely
The peaceful Muslims would be better off invading back to thier own countries of origin to help rebuild and save thier homelands rather than remain where they are not and under current conditions never be really welcome by the real natives !
Phil that thing you said last night was awesome pity you deleted it mun !
The bits that were deleted by ? That I said is ok but did you like the tits ? I think they were lovely
The peaceful Muslims would be better off invading back to thier own countries of origin to help rebuild and save thier homelands rather than remain where they are not and under current conditions never be really welcome by the real natives !
I deleted it because on reflection I didn't want to undermine our ignorant Muslim's faith, and felt that if he continued I would tackle his ignorant faith bit by bit, over subsequent posts, I have studied all religions, and 99% are pretty much false and corrupt Ideologies, but Islam takes the biscuit, let's see if he returns I will have him then, Kiff is right of course the silent majority very rarely speak out against the radical 250 Million murderous minority around the globe...............
Great tits by the way!.......................
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A Muslim can walk up to a group of Christians and spit on and burn a bible and the Christains would laugh at him , call him an idiot and walk away.
If a Christain mentions anything about the Koran or makes a cartoon about their leader , it isn't just ISIS that go off the deep end and go right out of their minds.
If by some miracle extremist Muslims were to get the upper hand on the world , "Peanut Gallery " Muslims would come out of the woodwork , announcing their pleasure at whats happened.
If a Christain mentions anything about the Koran or makes a cartoon about their leader , it isn't just ISIS that go off the deep end and go right out of their minds.
If by some miracle extremist Muslims were to get the upper hand on the world , "Peanut Gallery " Muslims would come out of the woodwork , announcing their pleasure at whats happened.
Paris attacks pit jihadist Islam against Western civilization. Israel has valuable lessons it can share
It's time we understood: we're in the midst of a third world war. This war will be global, too, but different from the two previous ones. This is a war between jihadist Islam and Western civilization; a war between radical Islam and anyone unwilling to bow to its political demands.
We will have to fight this war on the ground – with divisions and American, French and British tanks in Iraq and Syria, as well as the security measures that will be put in place on borders and by intelligence agencies in Belgium, France, Germany, as well as the Philippines, China and Russia. This war will be fought from the waters of the Mediterranean and from the air, bombing Islamic State and Al-Qaida targets throughout Asia and Africa, and with security measures undertaken in airports and aircraft all over the world. This will be the face of the third world war, of which are already a part. The claim of responsibility by the Islamic Sate reflects the organization's regular strategy: inflicting painful terror blows in places it can easily operate, with minimal effort and danger.
One can trace the start of this current terror wave to the attack on the Russian plane over Sinai three weeks ago. The assault in Paris was conducted according to the same strategy and for the same reason: the Western-led coalition is inflicting serious blows on the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq and losing control of important strongholds in the Islamic Caliphate it has established.
That is why IS is targeting its enemies' heartland. IS and Al-Qaida prefer to strike in Europe because it is considered the cradle of Christianity, and fundamentalist Islamic organizations still see it as the homeland of the Crusaders, who are consecrating a religious and cultural war against Islam. France and Paris were chosen for the coordinated attack not only because it has a tradition of human rights and freedom of movement, but also because France and its culture symbolizes everything that radical Islam fears. France outlawed the wearing of hijabs in public places, its top court affirmed the right of Charlie Hebdo to publish caricatures of the Prophet Mohamed and, recently, President François Hollande rejected a request by his Iranian counterpart to remove wine from the menu of a planned state dinner in his honor. France is the only one that dared stand up to IS, and that is why it is now mourning the death of its innocents.
The second reason France was targeted is its large, veteran Muslim community living in large urban centers – fertile ground for radical Islamic preaching at neighborhood mosques. The Paris terrorists spoke fluent French and some were likely French citizens of African origin. This enables terrorists to blend in with the local population, to gather intelligence on targets and to escape after committing their deeds.
A tremendous amount of weapons and ammunition reach Europe from Libya through Sicily, Malta, Greece and other places. This Libyan weaponry moves like a deadly wave throughout Europe and is available to one and all.
Paris is viewed as the epitome of European culture and attacking it sends effective shock waves that impact our consciousness and sows horror. They were dressed appropriately, in black, armed to the teeth, a mix of reality and virtual reality, to optimize the effect.
Much time and sophisticated planning is required in order to carry out simultaneous attacks at seven different sites. In addition to planning, weapons and explosives must be obtained, targets chosen and cased, perpetrators recruited – who are willing to die. It is thus highly likely that the operation was months in planning.
All of Europe must prepare itself for more attacks. This will require reinstituting full border controls and courage to handle the challenging dilemma of balancing human and civil rights with the need to provide security. So far, the states of the EU preferred personal liberties for their citizens over defense against terror, and one cannot blame them. Now France and its neighbors will have to conclude that the most important human right is the right to life. This was not an intelligence failure. It was an entire conceptual failure that requires new thinking. The West will have to establish a joint intelligence agency which will conduct assessments and issue warnings – not just for Western Europe, but also relating to Russia, China and other countries. European states will also have to set up special forces and deploy them in urban centers for rapid response purposes.
The manner in which Israel manages to gather intelligence and react accordingly, and speedily, using the top commando assault units of the army, police and shin bet security agency, must serve as role models. European bureaucrats are sure to object to this model, initially, but they will probably not have much choice. Reality will impose such methods, as well as changes in legislation that will free these units and forces to act with determination to thwart terror attacks and to handle them effectively once they are under way. Ron Ben-Yishai is a senior Israeli defense analyst. This article is adapted from the Ynet web site.
Great read!..........................
It's time we understood: we're in the midst of a third world war. This war will be global, too, but different from the two previous ones. This is a war between jihadist Islam and Western civilization; a war between radical Islam and anyone unwilling to bow to its political demands.
We will have to fight this war on the ground – with divisions and American, French and British tanks in Iraq and Syria, as well as the security measures that will be put in place on borders and by intelligence agencies in Belgium, France, Germany, as well as the Philippines, China and Russia. This war will be fought from the waters of the Mediterranean and from the air, bombing Islamic State and Al-Qaida targets throughout Asia and Africa, and with security measures undertaken in airports and aircraft all over the world. This will be the face of the third world war, of which are already a part. The claim of responsibility by the Islamic Sate reflects the organization's regular strategy: inflicting painful terror blows in places it can easily operate, with minimal effort and danger.
One can trace the start of this current terror wave to the attack on the Russian plane over Sinai three weeks ago. The assault in Paris was conducted according to the same strategy and for the same reason: the Western-led coalition is inflicting serious blows on the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq and losing control of important strongholds in the Islamic Caliphate it has established.
That is why IS is targeting its enemies' heartland. IS and Al-Qaida prefer to strike in Europe because it is considered the cradle of Christianity, and fundamentalist Islamic organizations still see it as the homeland of the Crusaders, who are consecrating a religious and cultural war against Islam. France and Paris were chosen for the coordinated attack not only because it has a tradition of human rights and freedom of movement, but also because France and its culture symbolizes everything that radical Islam fears. France outlawed the wearing of hijabs in public places, its top court affirmed the right of Charlie Hebdo to publish caricatures of the Prophet Mohamed and, recently, President François Hollande rejected a request by his Iranian counterpart to remove wine from the menu of a planned state dinner in his honor. France is the only one that dared stand up to IS, and that is why it is now mourning the death of its innocents.
The second reason France was targeted is its large, veteran Muslim community living in large urban centers – fertile ground for radical Islamic preaching at neighborhood mosques. The Paris terrorists spoke fluent French and some were likely French citizens of African origin. This enables terrorists to blend in with the local population, to gather intelligence on targets and to escape after committing their deeds.
A tremendous amount of weapons and ammunition reach Europe from Libya through Sicily, Malta, Greece and other places. This Libyan weaponry moves like a deadly wave throughout Europe and is available to one and all.
Paris is viewed as the epitome of European culture and attacking it sends effective shock waves that impact our consciousness and sows horror. They were dressed appropriately, in black, armed to the teeth, a mix of reality and virtual reality, to optimize the effect.
Much time and sophisticated planning is required in order to carry out simultaneous attacks at seven different sites. In addition to planning, weapons and explosives must be obtained, targets chosen and cased, perpetrators recruited – who are willing to die. It is thus highly likely that the operation was months in planning.
All of Europe must prepare itself for more attacks. This will require reinstituting full border controls and courage to handle the challenging dilemma of balancing human and civil rights with the need to provide security. So far, the states of the EU preferred personal liberties for their citizens over defense against terror, and one cannot blame them. Now France and its neighbors will have to conclude that the most important human right is the right to life. This was not an intelligence failure. It was an entire conceptual failure that requires new thinking. The West will have to establish a joint intelligence agency which will conduct assessments and issue warnings – not just for Western Europe, but also relating to Russia, China and other countries. European states will also have to set up special forces and deploy them in urban centers for rapid response purposes.
The manner in which Israel manages to gather intelligence and react accordingly, and speedily, using the top commando assault units of the army, police and shin bet security agency, must serve as role models. European bureaucrats are sure to object to this model, initially, but they will probably not have much choice. Reality will impose such methods, as well as changes in legislation that will free these units and forces to act with determination to thwart terror attacks and to handle them effectively once they are under way. Ron Ben-Yishai is a senior Israeli defense analyst. This article is adapted from the Ynet web site.
Great read!..........................
It really does seem a form of madness following any religion in the twisted violent forms of interpretations that men have moulded the original peaceful meanings they were probably meant to represent into, just so it suits thier purpose as a tool to kill and conquer without having a conscience to worry about because they are just following a sick instruction manual ! Madness I tell ya !
Just wanted to look at this one point above. You state; 'we are encouraged to report anyone who is inciting hatred for the people that live in our country.' - their is a slight flaw in that sentiment, encouraging and actually doing it.
I know of a mosque, where two extremists visited. The people praying that day just wanted for them to go away. Fair enough. Did they report them, not to my knowledge. So they move on to the next mosque, then the next until they eventually manage to recruit a young British national. I did ask the question if they reported them to the authorities, i got the same reaction, they were just glad they moved on.
Why do i bring up this point apart from your comment, during the 7/7 bombings, 3 of the 4 terrorists were British born;
- Mohammad Sidique Khan: aged 30. Khan detonated his bomb just after leaving Edgware Road tube station on a train travelling toward Paddington, at 8:50 a.m. He lived in Beeston, Leeds, with his wife and young child, where he worked as a learning mentor at a primary school. The blast killed seven people, including Khan himself.
- Shehzad Tanweer: aged 22. He detonated a bomb aboard a train travelling between Liverpool Street station and Aldgate tube station, at 8:50 a.m. He lived in Leeds with his mother and father, working in a fish and chip shop. Eight people, including Tanweer, were killed by the explosion.
- Germaine Lindsay: aged 19. He detonated his device on a train travelling between King's Cross and Russell Square tube stations, at 8:50 a.m. He lived in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, with his pregnant wife and young son. His blast killed 27 people, including Lindsay himself.
- Hasib Hussain: the youngest of the four at 18, Hussain detonated his bomb on the top deck of a double-decker bus at 9:47 a.m. He lived in Leeds with his brother and sister-in-law. Fourteen people, including Hussain, died in the explosion in Tavistock Square.
Good post BRB, Pakistan is a major breeding ground of the murderous Islamic scum.................
Time for the West and all peace loving nations to unite and crush this blight on humanity.
Time for the West and all peace loving nations to unite and crush this blight on humanity.
and you want a medal , it's just a pity some of your compatriots in your shared religion can't share your tolerance ,perhaps you should be preaching to them and not peace loving tolerant ( to a point )balanced human beings .
Good post BRB, Pakistan is a major breeding ground of the murderous Islamic scum.................
Time for the West and all peace loving nations to unite and crush this blight on humanity.
Thanks. Not that i agree with your comments.
Phil that thing you said last night was awesome pity you deleted it mun !
The bits that were deleted by ? That I said is ok but did you like the tits ? I think they were lovely
The peaceful Muslims would be better off invading back to thier own countries of origin to help rebuild and save thier homelands rather than remain where they are not and under current conditions never be really welcome by the real natives !
Last time someone posted tits on this website it create a load of problems for people trying to log on etc.Although a lovely pair it was not needed as we had Spurlock instead
It's a very big one thoughBut that's one tit, not two
Sherlock is your average , peanut gallery , moderate Muslim .
Comes on here with a half dozen , smug posts about his "Misunderstood " religion , without mention of the 500 hundred dead and injured in Paris. As if they are a non event .
Speaks volumes Sherlock , you're an easy read.
Comes on here with a half dozen , smug posts about his "Misunderstood " religion , without mention of the 500 hundred dead and injured in Paris. As if they are a non event .
Speaks volumes Sherlock , you're an easy read.