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Surely not even the King of the Trolls would put in that amount of effort when there's so little benefit.

So, in my mind, there has to be some kind of connection to Methven.

It's typical of the man to believe everyone else is so gullible that his superior intellect will put everyone else in their place.

Incidentally, my post on rtg earned me a lifetime ban which is of little consequence as I'd only gone on to put the record straight which I did. It was inevitable that I'd be banned, due to the infantile nature of the Mods over there. My post received over 60 likes which shows that there are loads of reasonable people, shame they're so often drowned out by the trolls who flocked onto that thread to attack me.
I had a reply deleted as I had the audacity to suggest you seem a genuine bloke posting stuff in good faith that you had received in good faith. Reason given "Petty Bickering".

Never had anything deleted before nor any bans or warnings.

Support for you seems to touch a nerve over there! Lifetime ban is a lot OTT in my opinion. You didn't say anything wrong in the post or the subsequent conversations. Its a crazy reaction really.
 
I posted this message, below, and the first response was from Jardine, followed by Abu Dhabi, niceonemarea, PhilSAFC, Colin Todd and all the resident Trolls attacking me, calling me a liar, deliberately messing Sunderland supporters about, etc.
The first three names on that list are arguably the three biggest annoyances on that board. Instead of a medal you get a lifetime ban. Sums the place up.
 
I posted this message, below, and the first response was from Jardine, followed by Abu Dhabi, niceonemarea, PhilSAFC, Colin Todd and all the resident Trolls attacking me, calling me a liar, deliberately messing Sunderland supporters about, etc.

I only responded in kind but the original post was deleted, because it had caused the bickering ...

... FFS, the same people are constantly bickering about me when I'm banned. They come over here, to see what I'm saying, then go back to bicker about me even more.

As the attacks continued I found I was banned for life.

The board snitches like niceonemarra and Abu Dhabi, who report to the Mods, were boasting about how they'd driven another poster off the board.

The lunatics are running the asylum over there mate <laugh>


Reiver said:

"I may be wrong, I may be right but there's currently no evidence that it has or hasn't fallen through ... despite the hysteria each Echo/Chronicle/media article engenders.

Someone negotiated a deal, with Donald, that was agreed by both parties, a done deal. Fuhrman said as much to a friend, Ben Brown, who showed me the messages between them. They're the only messages I've ever seen from any of 'FPP' and it was just a huge coincidence that I met Ben Brown at the time the deal had been agreed. Sadly I've only ever been ITK with Newcastle due to a solicitor I met while working for Sheikh Tahnoon of Abu Dhabi. He was the one who told me Ashley would be peddling Staveley which I posted, on here, weeks before it happened.
The outstanding message from Fuhrman was that 'he'd just bought Sunderland'.

When I posted this information I received confirmation by PM, on RTG, from someone who gave me details only a person involved could know. He's someone who stands to make a sizeable sum if the Americans/an American buys the club so he has a vested interest. Since that time they've sent other information that has proved to be 100% correct. I've also received various messages from someone at a Sunderland supporters group, a friend of Methven who I met up with at matches including Lincoln away and two posters on here who've been hit and miss but generally correct. They choose not to post because one is salaried at the SOL, the other has posted info before and was immediately jumped on by the resident trolls.
Methven going, McGeady being peddled, Ross sacked, etc were posted by me, on their word, well before the media or fanzines reported it. The post about McGeady was well in advance of anyone else and at a time when he was considered to be our best player and untouchable. It's very easy for people to say 'you know nothing' which is why they do it. If it involved any effort such as providing any evidence, quotes or even reasons why.

I didn't ask to be contacted and didn't think I'd end up receiving such a flood of messages. Nor am I in constant touch with Dell, Donald, Fuhrman or anyone else at that level, I've never claimed to be. I'm not an accountant or businessman so, unlike GOM or Kittens, I don't even understand the significance of some of what I post or ever made out I did.

There were some things I repeated that were wide of the mark but nothing worse than the kind of things the Echo, BBC, fanzines, etc were guilty of. I've always tried to distinguish between what I consider to be true as opposed to speculation, gossip or simply my guesses. I'm just another daft Sunderland supporter so entitled to any of that just as anyone else is. In fairness Donald has told so many people so many things that it's difficult to sift the truth from all the lies. I've received way more 'information' than I've posted because it's been from people I'm not sure about or being unable to have it corroborated. I've been contacted by all manner of lunatics claiming to represent the club, threatening me with legal action, etc. Much of what I've posted has been passed onto me by decent Sunderland supporters, who I either know personally or respect on the forums, and my only real first hand ITK facts are Fuhrmans WhatsApps which I saw myself. People can either take or leave what I post, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything or 'trying to make a name for myself'. I have to much love for my club and the supporters to mess people around as some kind of game on a chat forum. Besides I'm too well known, and recognisable, to risk retribution for deliberately having people on.

Part of what I was shown, by someone I trust implicitly, was a list of feasibility study titles which I assumed we're commissioned by FPP /Dell but never actually confirmed as such, who else could it be though tbh? These included an appraisal of the potential at the AOL which coincided with a visit from 'FPP'. Other studies were on the renovation of the SOL which they'd deemed 'scruffy' especially in the corporate areas, the area around the ground, the club image including the badge, etc all of which seemed quite reasonable for someone looking to buy and develop a club. After all, these weren't plans, just studies which would cost a fraction of the cost of a takeover. People of this stature surely wouldn't be expected to buy a club then start doing research into the options for development. This is the mistake Ellis Short made and look how that turned out.

Some people have made far too much of these studies which isn't my problem but, of course, I'd love it all to happen, I'm a Sunderland supporter!

After all of this I'm told Donald then believed the Americans were so enamoured with the project, which involved him running the show, that he could now chance his arm and ask for two bonuses. He may have thought they'd already put in so much time, effort and money they wouldln't be worried about paying a little extra. So he asked for a £5 million 'performance bonus' for promotion and another, double the first, for reaching the PL.

At which point the whole thing soured and the 'buyers' said the original agreed deal was the only one they'd accept. The suggestion is that the deal now wouldn't include a salaried contracted position for Donald meaning he'd only break even or perhaps lose money. So his only two options are to accept the initial offer or find a buyer who'll offer more.

The Americans are still there, haven't altered their position in months and are currently the biggest investors.

If someone makes a better offer they'll have a decision to make but, as things stand, they'll eventually own the club, when Donald's luck/money/credibility runs out


They'll become owners by default and that's my honest opinion based on what I've been told ...

... take it or leave it."
All ****ers,to a man.
 
I had a reply deleted as I had the audacity to suggest you seem a genuine bloke posting stuff in good faith that you had received in good faith. Reason given "Petty Bickering".

Never had anything deleted before nor any bans or warnings.

Support for you seems to touch a nerve over there! Lifetime ban is a lot OTT in my opinion. You didn't say anything wrong in the post or the subsequent conversations. Its a crazy reaction really.
A life time ban is a blessing in disguise. The majority are good posters but the minority wums/permanently negative liars and idiotic moderating make it a pile of ****e to post on. With a bit of luck the good ones come over here.
 
I had a reply deleted as I had the audacity to suggest you seem a genuine bloke posting stuff in good faith that you had received in good faith. Reason given "Petty Bickering".

Never had anything deleted before nor any bans or warnings.

Support for you seems to touch a nerve over there! Lifetime ban is a lot OTT in my opinion. You didn't say anything wrong in the post or the subsequent conversations. Its a crazy reaction really.

Oops, sorry about that mate ;)

I always try to be logical, reasonable and polite ...

... I only ever fire back if I'm being insulted or attacked and never receive any help from the Mods. I don't use bad language, insult people's mentality and I accept people's right to an opinion ... whether I agree with that opinion or not.

I was once banned by Pancho, although he later denied it, for 'inappropriate use of the report button'. What a horrible little man.

It's obviously my love of Sunderland, intolerance for the Mags & trolls on there and popularity that winds them up.

I only went back to correct a few lies that have been posted during my previous three months ban so this doesn't bother me. The forum idiots were quite keen to insult me and tell lies when I was unable to respond, but as soon as they have to back up what they're saying, they become hysterical. They totally ignored my post and just launched into petty personal bickering for which I was blamed.

The ironic thing is that these idiots are driving people away yet they are protected by the Mods ...

... perhaps they don't want to do the job, but daren't tell the boss <laugh>
 
Oops, sorry about that mate ;)

I always try to be logical, reasonable and polite ...

... I only ever fire back if I'm being insulted or attacked and never receive any help from the Mods. I don't use bad language, insult people's mentality and I accept people's right to an opinion ... whether I agree with that opinion or not.

I was once banned by Pancho, although he later denied it, for 'inappropriate use of the report button'. What a horrible little man.

It's obvious my love of Sunderland, intolerance for the Mags & trolls on there and popularity that winds them up.

I only went back to correct a few lies that have been posted during my previous three months ban so this doesn't bother me. The forum idiots were quite keen to insult me and tell lies when I was unable to respond but, as soon as they have to back up what they're saying, they become hysterical. They totally ignored my post and just launched into petty personal bickering for which I was blamed.

The ironic thing is that these idiots are driving people away yet protected by the Mods ...

... perhaps they don't want to do the job but daren't tell the boss <laugh>

Although my 100% clean record is now ruined try not to beat yourself up over it ;)

My main point was that they utterly over reacted to what was an innocuous post to put the record straight after your ban. Then continued with the slash and burn of anyone who had the cheek to stick up for you. Its pretty pathetic all things considered. I have said before over there you can either believe stuff posted or choose to not believe it. No one needs to get abusive but a fair few cannot seem to help themselves. A lot of whats said would not be said face to face in the pub but they are happy to hide behind their keyboards and snipe away.

I suppose what it boils down to is taking the line of least resistance, ban one poster for nothing while allowing the **** stirrers to get away with it and cutting down on the paperwork by removing the perceived cause of the "trouble" rather than looking at those who are escalating the issue in the first place by abusing people unnecessarily.

Cant see it will change until theres a zero tolerance on abusive posts that gets rid of the idiots on there permanently.
 
Oops, sorry about that mate ;)

I always try to be logical, reasonable and polite ...

... I only ever fire back if I'm being insulted or attacked and never receive any help from the Mods. I don't use bad language, insult people's mentality and I accept people's right to an opinion ... whether I agree with that opinion or not.

I was once banned by Pancho, although he later denied it, for 'inappropriate use of the report button'. What a horrible little man.

It's obviously my love of Sunderland, intolerance for the Mags & trolls on there and popularity that winds them up.

I only went back to correct a few lies that have been posted during my previous three months ban so this doesn't bother me. The forum idiots were quite keen to insult me and tell lies when I was unable to respond, but as soon as they have to back up what they're saying, they become hysterical. They totally ignored my post and just launched into petty personal bickering for which I was blamed.

The ironic thing is that these idiots are driving people away yet they are protected by the Mods ...

... perhaps they don't want to do the job, but daren't tell the boss <laugh>


Or the boss is past caring and believes his money tree will continue to flourish regardless.
 
Or the boss is past caring and believes his money tree will continue to flourish regardless.

He went on the board to say he'd close it down if the trolls continued then sat back and watched it continue while site traffic is well down.

I'm not bothered, on a personal level, just sad that what was an excellent forum has sunk so low.

I've been on here for years and it's a good board for actual Sunderland supporters which includes the Mods ...

... RTG is riddled with wins, trolls and Mags so bloody hard work when it should be fun.
 
Does he make owt off the msg board bud?

I assume there’s a stream from advertising?

It's a very popular board so he will receive money for advertisement.

I've always said they enjoy the trolls over there and the mag WUMs as it brings in more traffic.

Look at Sima ffs he totally mugged Roger off even said he was going to go out in a blaze of glory insulting a popular member of the board yet I got a warning for showing people his post.

Look at the long line of sad mad trolls who are just on a wind up or ones who pretend to be Sunderland fans. It's the same knackers over and over again it's clear as day to see but is anything done?

Nope as that would mean less traffic which means less revenue.
 
RTG is a joke. If some of them on there are Sunderland fans then I’ve got a 12 inch c0ck!
I never posted much but used to enjoy reading the debates but it’s impossible now.Point scoring and posters so in love with themselves it’s pathetic.
 
Don’t get why any of you actually go on there all you do is moan about it.
I’ve never looked anywhere other then this site it does me just fine :1980_boogie_down:
Been on there since 2002. It has done me since then, not a prolific poster but came over here when I found out about it late last year. Does seem a lot more civilised here to be honest but I will still post over there as well as here :)
 
RTG is a joke. If some of them on there are Sunderland fans then I’ve got a 12 inch c0ck!
I never posted much but used to enjoy reading the debates but it’s impossible now.Point scoring and posters so in love with themselves it’s pathetic.
Have you considered a career in the adult entertainment industry there marrow? I reckon you could make a bit of money.
 
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