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Hate Worldwide said:
…I can't see people like vettel lasting that long. That's the problem with modern f1 drivers. They enter the sport at a very young age, and peak far too soon, and then flounder in mediocrity for the rest of their careers.
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Hmm… I beg to differ on this.
All people are individuals and their achievements are the result of individual mind-sets.

Of all the current contenders, Vettel has his head in the best possible place. He currently has the best mind-set for the long-term, unless Hamilton can turn his head back into the right place (very questionable at the time of writing) and get a car which is properly competitive for a season. This aspect of the car is also Vettel's domain of course, adding considerably to his near-perfect state of mind.

There are very few sports personalities who have the where-with-all to fully appreciate and reflect upon the process and meaning of achievement at the same time that it is being done! Vettel has this capacity as much as I've ever seen in another racing driver. Such sure-footedness of the mind is rare in the extreme and is the very thing lacking in so many other examples of extreme talent. For example, I believe Lewis Hamilton can in some ways be compared to the snooker player: Ronnie O'Sullivan. By contrast; like Vettel, Valentino Rossi does not experience the demons which can so easily undermine achievement.

Having said all this, I very much hope that Vettel will not get it all his own way, even though I would applaud anyone who overhauled Schumacher's distorted statistics. Such domination does little to add to one's enjoyment of the spectacle.
 
I cant see Red Bull dominating long enough to see Vettel win seven titles. Alonso will win a few more and maybe Button might get one. I can see Perez becoming a future champion at Ferrari, possibly before Alonso retires.

I dont think any of the current drivers end their careers with 7 titles or more.
 
after most back to back titles end up with the team not producing a good car.

benetton - 94 - 95
Williams - 96 - 97
Renault - 05 - 06

also the 2013 rules may give rise to a new dominance
 
El_Bando said:
after most back to back titles end up with the team not producing a good car.

benetton - 94 - 95
Williams - 96 - 97
Renault - 05 - 06

also the 2013 rules may give rise to a new dominance
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That should read Newey - 96, 97, 98, 99

I think Red Bull's current form bears more resemblance to Ferrari in 2000/01. They're currently the best team in all aspects, Newey's design genius is being supplemented by a team which is really pulling its weight. Unlike Benetton (Brawn, Byrne, Schumacher), Williams (Newey) and Renault (Alonso), Red Bull aren't losing key personnel. This is no flash in the pan.
 
The most strong teams next year will be Ferrari, Redbull and Mercedes.. Mclaren will fall like 2009 I reckon (inconsistent).
 
MannyF1MSC said:
The most strong teams next year will be Ferrari, Redbull and Mercedes.. Mclaren will fall like 2009 I reckon (inconsistent).
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The reason Mclaren were bad in 2009 was because of the major rule changes and not interpreting them very well. They have got a good car to work with for 2012 and so I expect them to be closer to Red Bull than this year alongside Ferrari. I do not see any evidence to suggest that Mercedes will make a big jump forwards in performance next year, I think they will have to wait until the next major rule changes to join the top three.


AbsolutelyGlorious said:
I think Red Bull's current form bears more resemblance to Ferrari in 2000/01. They're currently the best team in all aspects, Newey's design genius is being supplemented by a team which is really pulling its weight. Unlike Benetton (Brawn, Byrne, Schumacher), Williams (Newey) and Renault (Alonso), Red Bull aren't losing key personnel. This is no flash in the pan.
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I agree that Red Bull will not drop down and are not a flash in the pan, but I do think that Ferrari and Mclaren will close up to them.
 
It is pointless to speculate some of you sound as if you can see the future! he may have an accident like kubica did and never race again, how can you possibly know what's going to happen tomorrow let alone next year..

I remember people shouting how Hamilton was god of F1a and he was gonna slaughter Button at McLaren! Look how that prediction turned out.

I for one am glad I don't know, what would be the point in knowing? We all may just as well jump off of the highest thing we can find if we did.
 
mephistopheles said:
It is pointless to speculate some of you sound as if you can see the future! he may have an accident like kubica did and never race again, how can you possibly know what's going to happen tomorrow let alone next year..

I remember people shouting how Hamilton was god of F1a and he was gonna slaughter Button at McLaren! Look how that prediction turned out.

I for one am glad I don't know, what would be the point in knowing? We all may just as well jump off of the highest thing we can find if we did.
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Yeah turned out he was slaughtered by Button, whatever happens... it will be still entertaining to watch. My point is Redbull have consistantly won races this season. So what is to stop them the next?
Ferrari have remained stronger at the tracks they were racing in 2010 this year, if you follow the correlation it will probably be the same next year, if there are no rule changes.
Mclaren are neither here or there, they have a brilliant car yes, but we don't really know what track suits the best yet..

In season testing will probably be a benefit to Ferrari, Mercedes (with a brand new and more experienced design team) and Mclaren to smooth out the imperfections from these past two seasons.
I just have a feeling Mclaren with drop, or be on the podium a few times because of Button. Hamilton also seems to need some advice this season, so he can come back stronger the next, it takes two to gain maximum points for the WCC.
 
MannyF1MSC said:
Sorry your lordness, my comments are never up to your standards.
Keep laughing, one day you will be made quiet.
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"Lordship" to you… ;)

Sometimes I like your comments. Just as I have said before - many many times and in fact even only a couple of days ago, and where I have defended you; I believe you have the potential to be a credit to this forum. When this happens, perhaps you will give me no grounds to laugh at your comments, and in that manner I will be silenced.

Incidentally, you need to do something about your signature. (Please :)).
 
cosicave said:
Incidentally, you need to do something about your signature. (Please :)).
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I did laugh the first time I read it, I think you're the most balanced contributor on the forum myself. Take care though cosi, I hear thej Billygoats Gruff are on the loose, if something goes clip clapping over your briodge DO NOT INVESTIGATE.

As to the records, I think the weirdest record that can I found via a link is 'least amount of driver nationalities to start a WDC race'. The answer is 1.
 
MannyF1MSC said:
The most strong teams next year will be Ferrari, Redbull and Mercedes.. Mclaren will fall like 2009 I reckon (inconsistent).
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Ferrari faltered in 2009 too, so should they also be labelled inconsistent?

The pecking order next year will still be Red Bull, McLaren & Ferrari.

The design team at Mercedes will not have enough time to have any major input in the 2012 car. Maybe 2013 you'll see some changes, but as they are hoovering up everyone who has been sacked by other teams, hardly is a reason to celebrate their arrival.
 
Miggins said:
I did laugh the first time I read it, I think you're the most balanced contributor on the forum myself. Take care though cosi, I hear thej Billygoats Gruff are on the loose, if something goes clip clapping over your briodge DO NOT INVESTIGATE.

As to the records, I think the weirdest record that can I found via a link is 'least amount of driver nationalities to start a WDC race'. The answer is 1.
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Really? That statistic is amazing Miggins! Come on, which country is it?

P.S. Thanks for voicing your impressions. That's quite a compliment!
As for the subject of complaint; although I too find it amusing, it does nothing for the image of a forum if such deliberate attempts to wind-up other members are promoted (by being left on public view).

Cheers.
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the answer is the 1950 indy500, which was part of the WDC until 1960. of the 73 entrants 72 were Americans and 1 Belgian, Charles Van Acker, who failed to qualify, so only Americans ran the race. The main reason being that the Indy 500 was run under a different set of rules to the rest of the races. (No surprises from the Americans there)
 
I think the greatest statistic is:
Shortest time elapsed before earning a penalty - 6 seconds - Sebastian Vettel (2007 United States Grand Prix; recorded speeding in pit lane six seconds into his career as a Formula One driver)
<laugh>
 
A Guy With A Sandwich:1469176 said:
I think the greatest statistic is:
Shortest time elapsed before earning a penalty - 6 seconds - Sebastian Vettel (2007 United States Grand Prix; recorded speeding in pit lane six seconds into his career as a Formula One driver)
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Now I bet that was a 'Doh!' moment. :)
 
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