Like many of you I have been looking at fixtures to see where we should get the magic 40 points needed to stay up. I have pencilled in 6 points from home to West Ham and West QPR. I am now slightly concerned that our lack of goals pre-season makes that assumption more challenging. Whilst I would not want a start to the season like Bolton had last season, from which they never recovered, on reflection I would rather not be playing West Ham before the team has settled as there is a higher risk of dropping much needed points. On the other hand if we do win both games coupled with a draw at Fulham we could be well placed after 4 games. Thoughts.
First two home games
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Exactly the same as last year, I have a printout of all the fixtures with two columns next to them.
One is headed "10 Wins", the other "10 draws" - all ready for the ticks to go in as we achieve each one.
And, exactly the same as this point last year, I can't for the life of me see where the 20 results are going to come from...
...so no worries then!
One is headed "10 Wins", the other "10 draws" - all ready for the ticks to go in as we achieve each one.
And, exactly the same as this point last year, I can't for the life of me see where the 20 results are going to come from...
...so no worries then!
For a bit of positivity we will finish on around 45-48 points. We will start a bit slow but will ship fewer goals and prob start with 2-3 draws and a loss. Holt as always starts a but slow but once momentum kicks in so will the goals. The big difference this season will be we will win less but lose less as well picking up important draws where last season we blew it
A point at Fulham would be good.
I think we will beat Wet Sham but QPR look a different proposition now after their multi-millions. Maybe a draw there!
I think we will beat Wet Sham but QPR look a different proposition now after their multi-millions. Maybe a draw there!
I can't believe all the negativity based on pre-season, seems all you so-called footy fans know nowt! we were losing to teams like Stevenage 2 years ago, then kicked of at home to Watford and lost that one too, then look what happened!
I'd hate to think that everything turns sour because people are getting a bit jittery early doors. Even into the season we have to keep the faith. Football is a funny old game. I can remember Wolves sitting pretty after 3 games last year, Bolton starting off with a 4-0 romp at KooPeeArgh and Wigan losing 8 games in a row well into the season and all but looked down.
Bugger pre-season now, it counts for feck all. We have to get behind the lads come what may and then we'll be fine. We've ridden the rollercoaster of emotions for the last few years and I for one am not going to suddenly going to get downcast because of a few dodgy draws or failure to hit the back of the net in meaningless games.
Keep the faith. Hughton will come good. By all accounts he is a great man manager and he has a squad of players more than capable of competing in this league. They proved it last year and can do it again this time around.
Now stop your whinging doomcasters!
Bugger pre-season now, it counts for feck all. We have to get behind the lads come what may and then we'll be fine. We've ridden the rollercoaster of emotions for the last few years and I for one am not going to suddenly going to get downcast because of a few dodgy draws or failure to hit the back of the net in meaningless games.
Keep the faith. Hughton will come good. By all accounts he is a great man manager and he has a squad of players more than capable of competing in this league. They proved it last year and can do it again this time around.
Now stop your whinging doomcasters!
Dave, that is completely irrelevant, I don't think people are being overly negative at all.
Some people have concerns about what they have seen and don't feel confident about it, it not being negative, its just comment.
Even if we have an amazing season, stay up by 10 points, that doesn't mean things are looking great now, (not my opinion as I think we will be OK, just not as OK as last season).
I hear all these positive comments about how we will stay up etc but there is VERY VERY little comment on here saying how well we have played in the friendlies.
Because the consensus (seems to me) is that we haven't. So why ignore it on a discussion forum?
I hear all these positive comments about how we will stay up etc but there is VERY VERY little comment on here saying how well we have played in the friendlies.
Because the consensus (seems to me) is that we haven't. So why ignore it on a discussion forum?
All I'm saying carrabuh, is you can't judge the performance on the strength of a poor pre season!
It's when games start in earnest from next Saturday that we have to judge! If the team and management have not learned from our expeditions, that's when to start worrying.
I'm definitely reserving judgement till then!!
It's when games start in earnest from next Saturday that we have to judge! If the team and management have not learned from our expeditions, that's when to start worrying.
I'm definitely reserving judgement till then!!
It's when games start in earnest from next Saturday that we have to judge! If the team and management have not learned from our expeditions, that's when to start worrying.
I'm definitely reserving judgement till then!!
I'm sure CH and his team will have learnt quite a bit from pre-season and I hope that we don't see the 'one up front' formation used too often,as I think the team has a better balance when we are playing with 2 strikers. I'd certainly be happy with a share of the points on Saturday and hope fully we can get all in our first home game.
All I'm saying carrabuh, is you can't judge the performance on the strength of a poor pre season!
It's when games start in earnest from next Saturday that we have to judge! If the team and management have not learned from our expeditions, that's when to start worrying.
I'm definitely reserving judgement till then!!
You can judge on friendlies, otherwise what would be the point in Hughton watching them, he might as well sit at home with the family if you don't learn anything from them.
If you want to reserve judgement then fine, so why say all the good things then (which I'm sure you have). This is my point, you can't have it your way only.
Reserving judgement means you don't say anything. Hardly conducive to a football forum.
Who has pissed in your pot tonight Carrabuh?
Besides, most people would agree that it is a positive approach of every tier of the football club that has got us where we are in three seasons. Most of us have seen it before and will no doubt see it again that as soon as there is some scope to moan and groan then the knives will be out. These 'fans' have still been lurking in the shadows despite a remarkable run of results and are just itching to have their say again.
What will the result be... A slow but devastating effect on more and more fans confidence which feeds into the players on the pitch which will embroil us in a spiral of doubt and doom.
Just let them play without fear and anything is possible. I couldn't care less which league we will be playing in next year, only that I have a football club to support and support it I will!
Besides, most people would agree that it is a positive approach of every tier of the football club that has got us where we are in three seasons. Most of us have seen it before and will no doubt see it again that as soon as there is some scope to moan and groan then the knives will be out. These 'fans' have still been lurking in the shadows despite a remarkable run of results and are just itching to have their say again.
What will the result be... A slow but devastating effect on more and more fans confidence which feeds into the players on the pitch which will embroil us in a spiral of doubt and doom.
Just let them play without fear and anything is possible. I couldn't care less which league we will be playing in next year, only that I have a football club to support and support it I will!
My point is not of what your opinion is (in this instance), my point is you can't say I reserve judgement but then judge only the good things.
The trouble is people seem to assume that if you voice concerns on here then your one of those fans who boo the team at the matches. Its just not true, I don't, the only time I boo is when I'm dead against the manager keeping his job and I want him out (Glen Roeder and Bryan Gunn/Delia Smith).
There is not a spiral of doom and gloom sweeping Carrow Road that will lead to our destruction. Football forums are not this powerful voice that can effect our season.
You can take your opinion seriously, but don't take the power of your opinion with the same seriousness.
I just don't like this you can only say good things attitude, it has changed on here recently and become alot more interesting (for me anyway), I don't personally want to see it go back to this bland patting each other on the back at every opportunity posting.
The trouble is people seem to assume that if you voice concerns on here then your one of those fans who boo the team at the matches. Its just not true, I don't, the only time I boo is when I'm dead against the manager keeping his job and I want him out (Glen Roeder and Bryan Gunn/Delia Smith).
There is not a spiral of doom and gloom sweeping Carrow Road that will lead to our destruction. Football forums are not this powerful voice that can effect our season.
You can take your opinion seriously, but don't take the power of your opinion with the same seriousness.
I just don't like this you can only say good things attitude, it has changed on here recently and become alot more interesting (for me anyway), I don't personally want to see it go back to this bland patting each other on the back at every opportunity posting.