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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by lamby, May 8, 2013.

  1. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

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    Interesting to think what sorts of players Moyes might bring in. Perhaps a couple of his favourites from Everton to make it the most hate-able team Liverpool fans have ever seen. Personally I think they'd be a very exciting team if they got Fellaini and Baines in.
     
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  2. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Skysports are suggesting an announcement within days which triggers a flood of bets. Bookies don't like taking large bets on situations where some people clearly already know the outcome.
     
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  3. Lff

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    Well, he has done great things for United (even though they were the richest club in the country for a lot of that time). However, the 'kids' team proved he could manage when money wasn't a factor and now he is still beating richer teams. And he was great for Aberdeen before that.

    But don't get me started on the man as a person debate. His touchline behaviour is frankly, shocking. How we can expect players to behave properly when he carries on the way he does? And, more often than not, he gets away with it. If he were anyone else, he would spend more time in the stands than on the touch-line.

    Obviously not Man Utd, but the SPORT of football is better off without him in my opinion.
     
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  4. Reginald

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    Don't know if anyone's mentioned, but this is very exciting for us.
    Fergie spent decades fine-tuning the formula at Utd to get the absolute best out of his players. However well Moyes does it will take him years to get Man United near to the level of ruthlessness and consistency they have acheived under Fergie. Everton's level of performance will invariably drop next year too. Like Fergie, Moyes seemed to reach a level there which can barely be surpassed. Their consistent top seven finishes on a comparatively paltry budget to those around them will take a superb manager to replicate, the likes of which I don't think they'll be able to attract. If Spurs lose tonight, and miss out on the top four, I can see them losing Bale. It's been said time and time again, but the amount of points he has single-handedly won them this season is just staggering. I've always liked AVB, but without Bale, Spurs's league position wouldn't be anywhere near as healthy.
    Maybe i'm being tenuous, but Arsenal don't perform for a whole season anymore, Mancini strikes me as being incredibly apathetic about his work at the moment, Liverpool are nowhere near the finished product yet, and if Chelsea don't get Mourinho, who knows how they'll get on.
    I'm not saying we're going to get anywhere near these sides in the near future, but it's suddenly not beyond the realms of possibility. It's a very good time to be an ambitious club in the Premier League right now.
     
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  5. AberdeenSaint

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    Intersting to see how Moyes and Rooney get on.
     
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  6. pass the football

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  7. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    I said earlier...

    Moyes to United.

    Wigan go down, Martinez to Everton.
     
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  8. Dellustrator

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    Good call. That sounds right to me. Love Martinez. Indifferent about Wigan.

    I feel unexpectedly sad about Fergie's announcement, but I think it's because he's like a piece of the furniture, albeit an extremely successful piece of furniture. I don't know what that would be. Maybe a home entertainment system.

    Anyway, it's the end of an era. Whilst sometimes behaving like a prick, it's well substantiated that he didn't lord it over people, and even those at the lowest levels of the club were valuable to him. Essentially though we'll remember his achievements, the titles. Oh and also smile about that grey strip :)
     
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    Quickly followed by Wigan to L1......
     
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  11. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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  12. pass the football

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    I think Everton will feel they can do better.
     
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  13. Joe!

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    Probably, but who's available? They won't spend an awful lot of money as they never do, and their last manager was pinched from Preston North End.
     
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  14. pass the football

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    Phil Neville?

    Amusingly you can get 500/1 on Ferguson!
     
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    Like who? Martinez is a great fit for Everton IMO.
     
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  16. Reginald

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    I don't think they can, it's difficult to attract a big name when there are Championship sides with more money to spend. I think in terms of knowing the Premier League, and making the most of what he has, Martinez couldn't be more perfect.
     
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  17. Joe!

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    I'm not entirely convinced that Martinez is as good as he's often cracked up to be. Sure, he's kept Wigan up for a long time, but struggled consistently and we've always had to wait until the final few weeks to see Premier League-worthy football from them. He certainly hasn't done a bad job for them, but I don't consider being a perennial relegation candidate to be excelling in any way.

    As for the style of football he's been known to play, it's pretty but they give their opponents too much respect. Playing three at the back can be done well, but you need great defenders and they never had any. Not Everton's style at all.
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Even more amusingly you can get 1000/1 on howard webb being next united manager ! <laugh>
     
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  19. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    What are the odds on Nigel Adkins?
     
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  20. pass the football

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    This reflects my feelings pretty well. He encourages good football and seems intelligent, buys fairly well, and he's young enough that there's room for improvement, but Wigan have always had a problem defending and he hasn't managed to sort that out in however many years he's been there.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him succeed in a big job in future, I just think maybe this would be a step too far for him right now.

    I appreciate that Phil Neville can't exactly boast much of a CV compared with Martinez but he's already there, has recently expressed an interest in management, would have the respect of all their current players and knows first-hand how Moyes worked there. Would be a good continuity candidate I think.
     
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