Which part of. "innocent until proven guilty" don't you understand? Cretin!
Get back to sucking JT off Fevruil you deluded **** up.
He'll no doubt give your balls a tickle if you swallow.
Which part of. "innocent until proven guilty" don't you understand? Cretin!
^^Most sensible post on this thread.
Chelsea were totally wrong to go public with this. The fact that it was reported by a player who was further away than the team-mate involved (who did not hear the alledged comment and neither did the other match officials) should have meant that Chelsea proceeded with caution when reporting it to the FA.
In going public with it, they were basically hanging the referee out. To subject a person to all the adverse publicity and public scrutiny without any firm foundation is disgusting, and the fact that Chelsea have not even had the grace to issue an apology to the referee is a disgrace.
Get back to sucking JT off Fevruil you deluded **** up.
He'll no doubt give your balls a tickle if you swallow.
Pretty sure legally you have to prove beyond any doubt that someone is guilty before you can convict.
In the FA it's beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because he was innocent in a legal sense doesn't mean he actually was, just that they couldn't prove it 100%.
The FA don't need to, just beyond reasonable doubt.
If anyone truly believes Terry was innocent, then they are as deluded as Liverpool fans were about Suarez. I'm under no illusions that he was innocent either, just like Chelsea fans should (and do for the most part) accept Terry was guilty.
As for the whole Cattenberg saga, the club shouldn't be punished for following through on accusations of racial hatred. However they should apologise to Cattenberg and compensate him for publicly denouncing him before any evidence was found.

Pretty sure legally you have to prove beyond any doubt that someone is guilty before you can convict.
In the FA it's beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because he was innocent in a legal sense doesn't mean he actually was, just that they couldn't prove it 100%.
The FA don't need to, just beyond reasonable doubt.
If anyone truly believes Terry was innocent, then they are as deluded as Liverpool fans were about Suarez. I'm under no illusions that he was innocent either, just like Chelsea fans should (and do for the most part) accept Terry was guilty.
As for the whole Cattenberg saga, the club shouldn't be punished for following through on accusations of racial hatred. However they should apologise to Cattenberg and compensate him for publicly denouncing him before any evidence was found.
Which part of. "innocent until proven guilty" don't you understand? Cretin!
Get back to sucking JT off Fevruil you deluded **** up.
He'll no doubt give your balls a tickle if you swallow.
Pretty sure legally you have to prove beyond any doubt that someone is guilty before you can convict.
In the FA it's beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because he was innocent in a legal sense doesn't mean he actually was, just that they couldn't prove it 100%.
The FA don't need to, just beyond reasonable doubt.
If anyone truly believes Terry was innocent, then they are as deluded as Liverpool fans were about Suarez. I'm under no illusions that he was innocent either, just like Chelsea fans should (and do for the most part) accept Terry was guilty.
As for the whole Cattenberg saga, the club shouldn't be punished for following through on accusations of racial hatred. However they should apologise to Cattenberg and compensate him for publicly denouncing him before any evidence was found.
Pretty sure legally you have to prove beyond any doubt that someone is guilty before you can convict.
In the FA it's beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because he was innocent in a legal sense doesn't mean he actually was, just that they couldn't prove it 100%.
The FA don't need to, just beyond reasonable doubt.
If anyone truly believes Terry was innocent, then they are as deluded as Liverpool fans were about Suarez. I'm under no illusions that he was innocent either, just like Chelsea fans should (and do for the most part) accept Terry was guilty.
As for the whole Cattenberg saga, the club shouldn't be punished for following through on accusations of racial hatred. However they should apologise to Cattenberg and compensate him for publicly denouncing him before any evidence was found.
Its a good thing that our court system is based on facts rather than opinions or I don't like the look of him. The FA Court has a 99.6% conviction rate , which is not even bettered by communist china. They had to ignore their own bylaws to even bring a case against Terry.
I dont know what was said and quite frankly no one else does apart from John Terry , But then again he was supposed to have knocked up his mates ex-girlfriend and everyone said yep he did it, even though the papers who printed that, retracted in full and paid he compensation for the lies they printed, but no one ever seems to mention that either!
Well you can apply that to ever situation even Clattenburg can't you?
The birmingham six are bloody glad that idiot wasn't on their appeal court hearing I'll bet!
Its a good thing that our court system is based on facts rather than opinions or I don't like the look of him. The FA Court has a 99.6% conviction rate , which is not even bettered by communist china. They had to ignore their own bylaws to even bring a case against Terry.
I dont know what was said and quite frankly no one else does apart from John Terry , But then again he was supposed to have knocked up his mates ex-girlfriend and everyone said yep he did it, even though the papers who printed that, retracted in full and paid he compensation for the lies they printed, but no one ever seems to mention that either!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2010/oct/07/newsoftheworld-john-terry
"Vanessa Perroncel was alleged in several papers to have had an affair with the Chelsea and England footballer John Terry. All sorts of personal and private information about Perroncel was published at the time, much it false.
The first paper to make amends was the Mail on Sunday. On page 18 of its 4 July issue, it carried a single, but significant, paragraph:
On January 31, we published some personal information about Vanessa Perroncel concerning an alleged affair with the footballer John Terry. We have since been informed she would have preferred this to remain private and it was untrue in any case. We apologise to Miss Perroncel for any distress caused.
On Sunday, a very similar apology appeared on page 18 of the News of the World, which can also be found on its website. It read:
VANESSA PERRONCEL
On January 31 and afterwards we published some personal information about Vanessa Perroncel in articles concerning an alleged affair with the footballer John Terry.
Miss Perroncel has since informed us that she would have preferred her personal information to remain private and it was untrue in any case. We apologise to Miss Perroncel for any distress caused."
Important parts posted for those who can't be bothered to read the article and will keep on believing the rubbish!
The bits that they printed that were false didn't relate to him having an affair with her though did they?
No, they didn't.
It related to the allegations that she aborted his child etc.
At least trade in the facts fevruil.
WTF can you not read?
On January 31, we published some personal information about Vanessa Perroncel concerning an alleged affair with the footballer John Terry. We have since been informed she would have preferred this to remain private and it was untrue in any case. We apologise to Miss Perroncel for any distress caused.
The information was in relation to information published around the affair, not the affair itself.
The apologies were in the Mail on Sunday and the News of the World.
I read them both, at the time and not courtesy of some one eyed bullshit that says JT is a god.
