Off Topic Exercise/Gym

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pierredelafranchesca said:
Have posted in the mental health thread about my experience with Mounjaro for weight loss.....can't recommend highly enough, lost 2 stone in 3 months and have kept it off with exercise since coming off, it's like a cheat code
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I do think Mounjaro is a fascinating drug. I considered decided that I'd give it a few months to see how I got on doing it naturally.

Thankfully I've done okay without it.

I'm similar to you, I get away with because I'm tall and my weight seems to spread out well.
 
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https://www.nuffieldhealth.com/about-us/our-impact/healthy-life/joint-pain-programme


I hope it adds the link correctly, but this is an opportunity to help with long term joint pain, you can sign up for free, if you fit in with the criteria, you have 2 attend twice a week for 12 weeks and do some educational work and practical fitness, strength, mobility workouts
Its a really good program that you can self refare onto

The staff are also really supportive

it also comes with 6 months Gym membership to Nuffield and access to the Gym, Pool, Sauna, Steam room, Class's and Tennis courts
 
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pierredelafranchesca said:
Have posted in the mental health thread about my experience with Mounjaro for weight loss.....can't recommend highly enough, lost 2 stone in 3 months and have kept it off with exercise since coming off, it's like a cheat code
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I'm on this, (have been for a bit now) since starting I've lost 42KG, gone from 46" to 34" waiste (XXXL to L clothes), diabetes is in remission, healthier heart (meds reduced) and can now excersie easier
 
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SW3 Chelsea Tiger said:
that’s just incredible! Well done. What’s your target?
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I've levelled out now and I'm happy at this weight, I'm just on it and still following the programme, as you need to take the maximum dosage for 6 months to a year, so your body is used to the smaller amouts you eat, to stop loads of weight being put back on, the specialist said some weight will go back on but not a great deal if the programme is fully followed.
 
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If you’re relying on jabs for weight loss you’re missing the fundamental mindset to stay that way or make a positive change. Needless to say they most likely cause damage people don’t know about, the whole basis of getting in decent shape is wanting to be that way instead of taking shortcuts. Extremely modern approach that embodies laziness imo.
 
Nikica Jellyfish said:
If you’re relying on jabs for weight loss you’re missing the fundamental mindset to stay that way or make a positive change. Needless to say they most likely cause damage people don’t know about, the whole basis of getting in decent shape is wanting to be that way instead of taking shortcuts. Extremely modern approach that embodies laziness imo.
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Let’s be realistic, if people had that mindset they wouldn’t be overweight in the first place.

Losing weight drastically improves people’s mental health, daily activity and long term health outcomes, if people need some help in getting started then I wouldn’t judge them for that.

I know a bloke that lost 4 stone on the jabs and he ran a 3 hour marathon last month, not someone I would describe as lazy.
 
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Nikica Jellyfish said:
If you’re relying on jabs for weight loss you’re missing the fundamental mindset to stay that way or make a positive change. Needless to say they most likely cause damage people don’t know about, the whole basis of getting in decent shape is wanting to be that way instead of taking shortcuts. Extremely modern approach that embodies laziness imo.
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I partly agree but that is very harsh. It’s definitely not something for me but that’s easy for us to say who are blessed with good jeans that enable us to stay slimmer without too much trouble. I mentioned in a previous post my friend who recently had to have her gall bladder removed as a side effect of Mounjaro. She was pretty large before and had tried all sorts of diets, fasting, nothing worked. She is obviously off it now but is actually getting out and exercising regularly and enjoying being able to, which wasn’t really possible for her before.

So for those people that need that kickstart it is a good thing. It’s also surely better than being obese.
 
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Amin Arrears said:
I partly agree but that is very harsh. It’s definitely not something for me but that’s easy for us to say who are blessed with good jeans that enable us to stay slimmer without too much trouble. I mentioned in a previous post my friend who recently had to have her gall bladder removed as a side effect of Mounjaro. She was pretty large before and had tried all sorts of diets, fasting, nothing worked. She is obviously off it now but is actually getting out and exercising regularly and enjoying being able to, which wasn’t really possible for her before.

So for those people that need that kickstart it is a good thing. It’s also surely better than being obese.
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HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) said:
Let’s be realistic, if people had that mindset they wouldn’t be overweight in the first place.

Losing weight drastically improves people’s mental health, daily activity and long term health outcomes, if people need some help in getting started then I wouldn’t judge them for that.

I know a bloke that lost 4 stone on the jabs and he ran a 3 hour marathon last month, not someone I would describe as lazy.
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Outlier but I suppose I am being harsh, but at the same time for most cases you should be harsh. I think it just irks me that the majority of people love an easy shortcut, the very ideology of getting in shape is that it’s ****ing hard and pushes you to become used to discomfort, if you’re too weak mentally to avoid discomfort then experimental jabs aren’t the answer. The reason there’s perceived value on someone who has abs or is in good physical shape is that you know it takes hard work and dedication, I’ve been at both extremes, 88kg with full abs and 110kg with big man titties, the way people treat you is wildly different and that’s harsh but also a reflection of truth, if you don’t respect yourself people won’t respect you, whether they admit it or not.
 
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Amin Arrears said:
I partly agree but that is very harsh. It’s definitely not something for me but that’s easy for us to say who are blessed with good jeans that enable us to stay slimmer without too much trouble. I mentioned in a previous post my friend who recently had to have her gall bladder removed as a side effect of Mounjaro. She was pretty large before and had tried all sorts of diets, fasting, nothing worked. She is obviously off it now but is actually getting out and exercising regularly and enjoying being able to, which wasn’t really possible for her before.

So for those people that need that kickstart it is a good thing. It’s also surely better than being obese.
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also in response to her trying a lot of different things just stop shoving buns in your gob, comes down to mathematics, calories in calories out. People wildly over complicate it.
 
Nikica Jellyfish said:
If you’re relying on jabs for weight loss you’re missing the fundamental mindset to stay that way or make a positive change. Needless to say they most likely cause damage people don’t know about, the whole basis of getting in decent shape is wanting to be that way instead of taking shortcuts. Extremely modern approach that embodies laziness imo.
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Why is it needless to say?
 
63 now, used to run pretty much every day since I was 18/19 till I changed jobs 4 years ago, now it's only a couple of times per week. Perversely I've ended up with what is diagnosed as dilated cardiomyopathy, almost certainly as a consequence of all that running. Both sides of my heart are enlarged with thinner walls which affects oxygen distribution throughout the body. I associated the symptoms as part of the aging process - unbeknownst to me, it was because of something I did whilst younger which I assumed was good for my health!:emoticon-0121-angry
 
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Chesh1recat said:
63 now, used to run pretty much every day since I was 18/19 till I changed jobs 4 years ago, now it's only a couple of times per week. Perversely I've ended up with what is diagnosed as dilated cardiomyopathy, almost certainly as a consequence of all that running. Both sides of my heart are enlarged with thinner walls which affects oxygen distribution throughout the body. I associated the symptoms as part of the aging process - unbeknownst to me, it was because of something I did whilst younger which I assumed was good for my health!:emoticon-0121-angry
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Welcome to my World Chesh. I can't even walk far anymore because of it, although mine is because of my past lifestyle of drinking and smoking, now i'm paying for it. Am I bothered? am I ****. i've lived the life I have and got no regrets, I worked hard and played hard.
I was planning on meeting up with a fellow poster in Ebbers yesterday but my breathing wasn't good, I have to see how I am each day. But, that's how it is, no-one elses fault but my own. <cheers>

Stay as well as you can mate. <cheers>
 
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Chesh1recat said:
63 now, used to run pretty much every day since I was 18/19 till I changed jobs 4 years ago, now it's only a couple of times per week. Perversely I've ended up with what is diagnosed as dilated cardiomyopathy, almost certainly as a consequence of all that running. Both sides of my heart are enlarged with thinner walls which affects oxygen distribution throughout the body. I associated the symptoms as part of the aging process - unbeknownst to me, it was because of something I did whilst younger which I assumed was good for my health!:emoticon-0121-angry
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It could just be genetic and youve got unlucky, so don't regret the exercise, mate - it's probably been unknowingly a stress release and helped you function over the years.
 
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Heimdallr said:
It could just be genetic and youve got unlucky, so don't regret the exercise, mate - it's probably been unknowingly a stress release and helped you function over the years.
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No family history I'm aware of so not likely genetic and the only way of knowing for sure could impact my kids' mortgage applications,life insurance etc according to the cardiologist, so he's loathe to do the test, which is pretty good of him really.
You're right about stress release- the time spent was great for thinking through things and rationalising . It also gets to a point when it's not even for health benefits (irony alert), it just becomes part of the make up- I don't know if it's habit, endorphin or compulsion.
 
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