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Citizen Kane. said:
The loan move(s) did us and him no favours but in hindsight, we signed him at a time when we didn't have the luxury to wait around while young players developed. Too many senior players needed replacing immediately and to matters even harder, very few of them played in his preferred position so he was never likely to get game time.

Ironically signing him instead of Bryan Gil might have been a good shout in terms of timing but now we see the latter has gone through a similar trajectory due to the state of the first team itself i.e. we still aren't in a healthy enough condition to indulge young players while they learn the ropes here or elsewhere and for the same reason we aren't good enough in the cup competitions to at least give them solid game time (although Conte was philosophically against the concept in its entirety).

It's a huge jump up to the PL but if Brentford are after him, there is obviously confidence he can make it.

He was signed by a manager who probably assumed he'd be given years to build a second squad, but was only given 3 months.
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The issue with Clarke is pretty similar to the issue we had with Foyth: they were both streaky players on arrival, and the only way to fix that is to have them play enough football that the poor decisions start to get ironed out and their instincts sharpen up

In the case of Foyth, realistically we should have been braver in using him when he was available during the 2018-19 season, because while we were overloaded with RBs that season we really should have cut our losses on Aurier and have Trippier/Foyth as our rotation axis with KWP in reserve, because while injury did eat into his playing time, that would have set up the asymmetrical FB system Poch wound up introducing the following season (plus KWP would have been in line to get some playing time, due to offloading Aurier)

On the other hand, in Clarke's case the main issue was that Poch tended to like a pacey winger off the bench (which is what N'Jie and Nkoudou were) so in theory Clarke could have been an option the season he arrived, but due to him being such a raw talent when he arrived even if he did get subbed on for let's say 25% of our matches with a few cup starts thrown in, even if he remained injury free he likely wouldn't have started to truly click until either very late in 2019-20 or more likely at some point the following season

If things worked out and/or were handled differently, hindsight suggests that Foyth would likely be a starter for us by this point (with the likely knock-on effect of us selling Sanchez a couple of years ago) but Clarke is harder to gauge - partly due to his Championship loans seeming to be cursed, but also he'd have likely found himself in the same position Bryan Gil is currently in where there's a Sonny-shaped blockade to him getting regular minutes - although given he has played LWB for Sunderland this season, it does have to be asked if having Perisic/Clarke as our LWB axis this season was something we could have considered instead of letting him go last summer
 
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Sounds right to you guys?
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The formation is all wrong. Greaves, Chivers and Gilzean all played CF. Beal, England were CH and there is no left back (Kinnear played on the right). Centre midfield of Venables, Mackay and Mullery is overloaded and Cliff Jones played on the left (I think)
 
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SpursDisciple said:
The formation is all wrong. Greaves, Chivers and Gilzean all played CF. Beal, England were CH and there is no left back (Kinnear played on the right). Centre midfield of Venables, Mackay and Mullery is overloaded and Cliff Jones played on the left (I think)
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My late father played against Cliff.

I met Mike England a few times on hols - lovely guy!
 
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Alfie Conn said:
He asks his players to play as smart tnuc's but as a manager not such a smart tnuc last night
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Like most modern managers, he asks his players to cheat, play-act and feign injuries.
He also gets very upset when other managers do the same.
They harass and intimidate the officials, then wonder why said officials get flustered.
 
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I think the time has come to have compulsory press conferences for officials straight after the match has ended , before the PMGOL and theirUEFA andFIFA have time to prepare a scenario that exonerates their officials. Thousands of fans, players and managers would have loved to say those words to Taylor and to a number of other officials as well.
 
Billy The Spur said:
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Sherwood seriously chats ****...at one point in the interview claims spurs won something in his time playing there ...he joined in Jan 1999 as a player and did NOT play any role in the league cup semi finals or final as he was cup tied...he joined our coaching staff in October 2008 6 months AFTER we won the Carling Cup in Feb 08...twat
 
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remembercolinlee said:
Sherwood seriously chats ****...at one point in the interview claims spurs won something in his time playing there ...he joined in Jan 1999 as a player and did NOT play any role in the league cup semi finals or final as he was cup tied...he joined our coaching staff in October 2008 6 months AFTER we won the Carling Cup in Feb 08...twat
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That makes him right though, sort of.
Aubameyang and Vertonghen both won the league this season, too.
Doubt they'll be celebrating it too much, though.

Cancelo can justifiably claim to have won two league titles this season.
Played 26 games for City and 21 for Bayern.
Nobody seems to want to stump up the cash for him.
 
Forest have triggered a clause in Serge Aurier's contract to extend it for another 12 months.
He had a very good season, despite missing a number of games through injury.
Still played 24 league games and 4 cup matches, too.

Had something of an inverse season to the more highly rated Jesse Lingard.
Did **** all and got released.
 
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