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Ex-Manager Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ElliotMP, Mar 28, 2016.

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Who would you have as our next Manager

  1. Eddie Howe

    8.0%
  2. David Moyes

    3.3%
  3. Unai Emery

    45.1%
  4. Ryan Giggs

    1.9%
  5. Frank De Boer

    8.5%
  6. Steve Bruce

    2.3%
  7. André Villas-Boas

    22.1%
  8. Anyone that Uncle Les picks

    30.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    I think the first agent was telling Everton to go away as Rk had agreed to stay at SFC, RK found out and got rid of the first agent, as he was angry that the agent had not informed him of Everton's approach.
     
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  2. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Actually, I think his first agent was the initial problem to be honest. My understanding was that he put RK's name forward to Everton in the first place! When they showed an interest he asked what kind of deal was on the table. At this time it became public and although his agent tapped Everton up it could be thought that Everton did the tapping up.
    The only answer was to sack his agent so that he wouldn't be associated with the tapping up. (Ron's involvement initially could have been a Sackable offence so that if negotiations broke down with Everton he could have been out of a job along with his staff.
    When Ron signs I think it is possible his first agent will get a share of the spoils, probably around £.5 mil or so.
    Might sound far fetched.........but Everton are paying over the top to get him.........suspicious to me...............
     
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  3. Number 1 Jasper

    Number 1 Jasper Well-Known Member

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    My bad.
     
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  4. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Red herring may be better Beddytare - to be honest.

    [Perhaps. It's been edited - TSS]
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I think Koeman sacked his agent because he didn't keep him in the loop (pure supposition remember). Said agent says he speaks to Les about three times a week....so pretty close. Koeman listened to offer, but not 100% sure, so gave Saints a chance to counter or offer more to spend on players (may have known they wouldn't/couldn't, but felt he should). At this point anything could happen, but usual thing happened: two men = argument. Koeman feeling he was entitled to more; Les pissed off after years of this (especially if there had been problems before). Ron leaves in huff....not even in the mood to negotiate leaving Everton hanging.

    What do I expect: Ron has cooled down, recovers composure, knows there is no way back and takes very flattering offer from Everton (who are by now not too chuffed with him).
     
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  6. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Could this seemingly get more messy, I think it could. <yikes>
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Only 5 possibilities:

    1. Koeman returns and everyone pretends nothing happened, fans now a bit suspicious but generally glad to return to status quo as we really liked Ron (0.1% chance).
    2. Koeman put on gardening leave because Saints really love wasting money. (0.9%)
    3. Koeman turns down both offers and on a matter of principle leaves for pastures new. (0%)
    4. Koeman's body washes up on a beach and Les Reed and Kreuger have been caught on camera carrying a large black bag to his car. (interesting but 0%)
    5. Koeman announced as Everton manager and every Saints fans says he was never that good and his eyes were too close together anyway (99%)
     
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  8. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    80% of those options are more messy.
     
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  9. Whiteley Saint

    Whiteley Saint Well-Known Member

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    This has got to be the longest 24 hours ever.
     
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  10. TBD

    TBD Active Member

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    No you're not allowed to say that, can you remove that please. http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/03/white-people-cant-use-the-n-word/


    [Original post edited - TSS]
     
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  11. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I remember being told by my mother that although that word was in a book I couldn't say it because it was rude and unpleasant....and that was in the 50s when I was five. Never have said it except in the context of a discussion.

    P.s. just remembered that was the colour of my school cardigan...n***** brown, but I never made the connection to people at the time. Now it would just be dark brown. The times I am afraid.
     
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  12. Romsey_Saint

    Romsey_Saint Well-Known Member

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    The club has said previously that they are always putting succession planning at the forefront of what they do. I confess I had never encountered this to any great extent but now working in the UAE - it is also at the forefront of what we do here, where internally we look to see who can make the next step up and how to get them to the level should a person leave in the future. We also analyse peoples roles and look for the right attributes needed for that position and then look for that in the job market place.
     
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  13. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

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    Removing something is not the right thing to do.
    It doesn't hurt anyone and it's important that people know what is deemed unacceptable, rather than guessing.

    Probably best for Beddy to update his metaphors though
     
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  14. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    Have been on holiday the past week and have just sort of waited for Everton to announce koeman. I've checked today and it's still not bloody done!!

    Does anyone actually know what is going on with this?
     
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  15. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
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  16. Missing Lambo

    Missing Lambo Well-Known Member

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    Don't beat about the bush, for God's sake. Tell us what you know!

    Bored of Chester
     
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  17. woolstonian

    woolstonian Well-Known Member

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    My mum still calls it that.
     
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  18. SAINTDON13

    SAINTDON13 Well-Known Member

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    I was going to prevaricate but keep putting it off.
     
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  19. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Tobes does. He knows everything about this deal, because he's more ITK than our ITKs.
     
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  20. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    Did Everton have any/many England U21s in the recent tournament win?
    Just wondering, if they did, if they are looking forward to welcoming Koeman to Goodison, after listening to tales from JWP and Matty Targett, about his (alleged) behind scenes behaviour.
     
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