Excellent goal celebration from Kelly.
Euro 2022
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Excellent achievement, slightly frustrated with myself though as I should be chuffed but it brought back too many memories of last year and I’m feeling negative instead. Very happy for the womens side though!
Stupid football emotions.
Stupid football emotions.
So enjoyed that, thought the Germans gave us such a tough game but l did not appreciate their cynical play and the referee was very poor. Overall England deserved to win this tournament and its been a wonderful advert for womens football.
No ladies in the team, just footballers
Yes, it is a reminder that we let it slip away last year.
One of the managers makes positive and proactive in-game decisions, and the other is Gareth Southgate.
That’s the difference.
Wiegman has transformed this team
They were ok before and now they’re world beaters
Roll call of impressive performances is too long, let’s just say the list of players who underperformed is ...
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They were ok before and now they’re world beaters
Roll call of impressive performances is too long, let’s just say the list of players who underperformed is ...
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Knock, knock
Who’s there?
Football. I’VE COME HOME!
Who’s there?
Football. I’VE COME HOME!
If you want a job to be done properly, get a woman to do it.
- MrsNo7 10 mins ago.
- MrsNo7 10 mins ago.
I can see so many other managers copying her tactics. Having five subs available is somewhat game-changing. It allowed White and Kirby to go out there every game, basically in the knowledge that they could give 100% for 60 minutes-ish without worrying about conserving energy for the back end. The opposition defenders didn't have that luxury. And then bang, a decent period of 35 mins-ish for Toone and Russo to then give it their all too - and actually influence the match. Not just 10 minutes at the end, where they might only touch the ball a handful of times.
Toone and Russo weren't so much substitutes in the traditional sense (eg injury replacements or tactical changes), but rather an extension of the first XI (if that makes sense)?
Or as Nigel would say, it's not about the 11.
I am really glad that the England women's team won tinight and did this by beating the Germans who, for so long, have thwarted their male counterparts. The best two teams made the final and I wish i had seen the whole match and not just the last 45 mins as I was coming back from the cricket.
I totally concur with the points made by the commentators and it is clearly the case that the genie is now out of the bottle as far as the women's game is concerned. The regional clubs need to do the maximum to ride on the crest of the support the Lionesses have garnered this summer but I really believe this is a watershed moment. Clubs need to start thinking about attracting more female spectators and I think there is a lot to be said for the family atmosphere that has been a feature of this competition. I think that the terraces have been far more welcoming and that this has the potential to really change football as a spectator sport for the better.
The one comment I really wished to pick up on and that did not appear to have been picked up in the commentary is that the FA has now captured a major competition for the first time since 1966. I really see this as an opportunity for men's football to learn from the women's game. On a national level, it would be difficult to argue after tonight that the England women's team does not have something to contribute to the men's game. Whatever has been done by Wiegman needs to be studied and implimented with the Lions. I would like to think that the FA takes the bullet by the teeth and recognises that the women's team is more capable than the men's so that lessons are be learned. The FA needs to understand why the England woman's team has won this competition so that any benefits can be passed on. I really believe that Sarena Wiegman has something to offer the men's set up. I am not suggesting that we bin Gareth Southgate but I think Southgate can learn from her.
I totally concur with the points made by the commentators and it is clearly the case that the genie is now out of the bottle as far as the women's game is concerned. The regional clubs need to do the maximum to ride on the crest of the support the Lionesses have garnered this summer but I really believe this is a watershed moment. Clubs need to start thinking about attracting more female spectators and I think there is a lot to be said for the family atmosphere that has been a feature of this competition. I think that the terraces have been far more welcoming and that this has the potential to really change football as a spectator sport for the better.
The one comment I really wished to pick up on and that did not appear to have been picked up in the commentary is that the FA has now captured a major competition for the first time since 1966. I really see this as an opportunity for men's football to learn from the women's game. On a national level, it would be difficult to argue after tonight that the England women's team does not have something to contribute to the men's game. Whatever has been done by Wiegman needs to be studied and implimented with the Lions. I would like to think that the FA takes the bullet by the teeth and recognises that the women's team is more capable than the men's so that lessons are be learned. The FA needs to understand why the England woman's team has won this competition so that any benefits can be passed on. I really believe that Sarena Wiegman has something to offer the men's set up. I am not suggesting that we bin Gareth Southgate but I think Southgate can learn from her.
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Makes a change for the wife to be coming home pissed up from the footy and wanting a shag. My turn for the headache.
Your third paragraph is interesting. Mainly because you just assume there is something to contribute to the men's game but seem to not even attempt at suggesting what that might be. Similar with Wiegman and Southgate. I understand people might be getting caught up in things but there is every chance that there is very little help they could provide.
The systems and structures for a start are largely completely different. The game is the same when on the pitch (rules wise) but the environment definitely is not. It isn't even comparable
So you suggest it would be difficult to argue that the women's team does not have something to contribute whilst appearing to have had difficulty arguing that they actually do have something to offer - given that you haven't actually made such an argument.
Not quite sure where you are coming from , Greg. Like all forms of management, if a system is clearly working as it clearly is with the Lionesses, the FA needs to understand why this is the case. There may be differences in the women's game that make some things different but the approach of Wiegman regarding man management is one aspect that is clearly working. All of her squad is behind her and I believe this has happened in the space of about 8 months. When Hope Powell was in the role, there were claims regading the strides made in the women's game yet the players were not happy with playing for her, as good a coach as she was. Seeing where the game was ten years ago, last night was a massive acheivement but the performance throughout the tournament was fantastic. Going professional has obviously helped as has the raised profile of clubs at a national level. It would be ridiculous if the FA did not carry out a "lessons learned" exercise to see what factors contributed to what culminated last night. In no way that the men's game step aside and say that last night's success cannot have some benefit to the Lions.