Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

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How will you vote in the EU referendum ?

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petersaxton said:
legislation?
You dont think there will be negotiations on deals?
do you think we are going to ask for parts of deals that we don't want?
you are not giving the impression that you have negotiated about anything in your life
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You want to negotiate from a position of strength. Despite your assertions, the EU holds the cards.

It cannot be allowed to be seen to be easy to just walk away and then cherry pick which bits of EU you like and which you don't. That's why the Swiss are being told that free movement of people is a cornerstone of the EU treaty. Either accept it or no deal.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
You want to negotiate from a position of strength. Despite your assertions, the EU holds the cards.

It cannot be allowed to be seen to be easy to just walk away and then cherry pick which bits of EU you like and which you don't. That's why the Swiss are being told that free movement of people is a cornerstone of the EU treaty. Either accept it or no deal.
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Did you see the interview with Crispin Blunt, chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee, on Newsnight last week?
He said several sensible things:
1 There's a good chance that the EU couldn't agree a negotiating stance among themselves
So if there's no deal reached
2 Then we would have to buy and sell to the EU on WTO terms at tariffs at an average of 3% - that's how we buy and sell to the USA
3 We would then not have to accept free movement of labour
3 We wouldn't have to make any contributions to the EUs budget
This is the report that the Committee wrote in April
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmfaff/545/54502.htm
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
You want to negotiate from a position of strength. Despite your assertions, the EU holds the cards.

It cannot be allowed to be seen to be easy to just walk away and then cherry pick which bits of EU you like and which you don't. That's why the Swiss are being told that free movement of people is a cornerstone of the EU treaty. Either accept it or no deal.
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No they don't <doh>

You live in fear. You don't think your country is very strong and you think the EU is mighty. It's not.

What about the fishing waters they are going to lose out on. What about the German jobs in the motor industry which is massively under threat now.

Stop licking the arses of the EU, man, it's pathetic. Have some faith and stop being weak minded. The EU are just as worried as the UK about how the trade deals are going to work out. We won't get everything we want, but neither will the EU.
 
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If some scenarios play out, it could end up with UK Scots being bussed back over the border, which would leave a few constituencies down here lacking representation in Parliament. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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Safc83 said:
No they don't <doh>

You live in fear. You don't think your country is very strong and you think the EU is mighty. It's not.

What about the fishing waters they are going to lose out on. What about the German jobs in the motor industry which is massively under threat now.

Stop licking the arses of the EU, man, it's pathetic. Have some faith and stop being weak minded. The EU are just as worried as the UK about how the trade deals are going to work out. We won't get everything we want, but neither will the EU.
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I think there's a good chance that he'll never be considered to be involved in our negotiations with the EU (or anything else). Maybe we can infiltrate him into the EU negotiating team!?
 
Safc83 said:
No they don't <doh>

You live in fear. You don't think your country is very strong and you think the EU is mighty. It's not.

What about the fishing waters they are going to lose out on. What about the German jobs in the motor industry which is massively under threat now.

Stop licking the arses of the EU, man, it's pathetic. Have some faith and stop being weak minded. The EU are just as worried as the UK about how the trade deals are going to work out. We won't get everything we want, but neither will the EU.
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Except it's not.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
No surprise! The Leave mob seem to think that the EU is just going to meekly allow the UK to cherry pick which bits of legislation it likes, and which it doesn't. And then just say, ok then....
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Have you got something worthwhile that gives you good reason to say that?
 
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